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I remember when I was in high school – it was a private Jewish school – there was a special assembly one day where a man came to speak about religious cults. The school wanted to be sure to educate us as to the activities of cults on college campuses before we graduated.

The speaker talked about all sorts of groups, but he emphasized Jews for Jesus. Apparently, at the time at least, Jews made up a disproportionate percentage of cult members relative to their percentage of the general population. This was explained as a result of many Jews coming from homes with no religious content who were searching for something more meaningful in their lives.

He explained to us how they operated. They would hold a synagogue service on Friday night and invite Jewish students. The service would be the same as the students had experienced in their respective hometown congregations. Only at one point the “Rabbi” would start to talk about Jesus.

What is called “Messianic Judaism” today is what was once called “Jews for Jesus.” It should not be confused with Jewish messianic groups such as the sect within the Lubavitch which believes that Rabbi Schneerson, their last Rebbe, was the messiah. Perhaps they changed their name in an attempt at re-branding because Jews for Jesus sounded so silly. I do not know who said it first, but it has often been brilliantly pointed out that there is another name for Jews for Jesus – Christians. A Jew who believes in Jesus is an oxymoron to say the least.

The messianics attempt to convert Jews to Christianity through subterfuge. They present Jews with an “opportunity” to accept Jesus without giving up their Jewish identity by formally converting to another religion. They let these Jews continue to observe Jewish traditions and holidays and even observe the Sabbath on Saturdays.

One such group is located in the Nachlaot neighborhood of Jerusalem. It is currently engaged in a multi million dollar renovation of an old building which will become their new center. Many, if not all, of the observant Jews in the neighborhood know about it and are angry about it.

The congregation is just a block away from one of the more popular synagogues for local English speakers called Mayanot. A year ago, while walking to Mayanot on Shabbat morning, I saw a group of people get out of a taxi right near the congregation. A man asked me in English where the synagogue was as he placed a kipah on his head. I thought at first that maybe he also wanted Mayanot and told him that I was headed there, but then another person in his group pointed to the Messianic congregation’s building. Maybe I should have said something like ask if he was Jewish, but I did not.

About six months ago something similar happened. On Shabbat morning I saw a man, clearly a tourist, in shorts and a T shirt looking at a map. He did not wear a kipah. It was Shabbat morning and he was a block away from the congregation. I asked him if he was lost and he told me that he was looking for the messianic “synagogue.” This time I asked if he were a Jew and he said, “no I’m a Christian.” I then asked him why he was going to the messianic congregation and he said, “I just want to give it my support.”

“Give it my support.” I was fascinated by his choice of words. Why would a Christian say that he wanted to attend services at a synagogue? O.K. maybe if he was invited to a Bar Mitzvah, but this was obviously not the case. Clearly by “support” this man meant that he waned to aid the cause of the messianics in their attempts to convert the Jews.

There is an organization in America which specializes in countering Christian missionary activities. Its leader spoke recently in Nachlaot on the issue, in part, in response to the community’s concerns.

Rabbi Tovia Singer, 53, lives in both Jerusalem and Passaic New Jersey. He has two daughters and studied at the renowned Mir Yeshiva in New York. He founded the organization Outreach Judaism in 1984 and is its director.

Tovia Singer

Tovia Singer

Rabbi Singer has boyish good looks that belie his 53 years. When I first saw him I was sure that he was younger than me. He dressed in black with a black kipah. He does not, however, wear a beard. A beard is indicative of the more ultra orthodox Jews represented by his dress and with whom the Mir yeshiva is affiliated. When asked about how he sees himself – modern or more Haredi – he avoided the question. It is understandable, however, that someone in his field would not want to be “typed” as belonging to a specific group.

Rabbi Singer is an excellent public speaker. He knows just how to interject humor into his talks without acting like a comic. His demeanor is reminiscent of Jackie Mason.

Rabbi Singer Entertains the Crowd

Rabbi Singer Entertains the Crowd

Rabbi Singer describes Outreach Judaism as “more of a network” than an organization. They have about eight full time employees who work on different projects. These include their web developers.

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In the past, Tovia would conduct one on one sessions with Jews who had become involved with messianic organizations. “It was very time consuming,” he said. Now Rabbi Singer relies mostly on his recorded lectures that are available for free from his web site. The idea is that when a Jew is confronted with Messianic propaganda he can be referred to Tuvia’s lectures on Judaism that provide answers to the points that missionaries make. “The work [I do] today is public speaking.”

The Crowd was Enthralled

The Crowd was Enthralled

Rabbi Singer gave one of his public lectures this past Saturday night at the Kol Rina synagogue in Jerusalem. Kol Rina is located in an old bomb shelter under Beer Sheva Street in the Nachlaot neighborhood. He spoke for 90 minutes to a group of about 70 people and then took questions. Some of the questioners were visibly angry because of missionary activity in the neighborhood.

But why do we Jews find the so called messianics so objectionable? I will answer that question later.

Rabbi Singer began his talk by telling a story from his youth. He saw people putting up posters for a Jews for Jesus event in New York. He confronted the people and began to argue with them. Then an elderly Jewish man who Rabbi Singer had never met before pulled him aside and said, “do not argue with them. You do not know enough.”

Rabbi Singer felt offended by what the man said. He studied at yeshiva six days a week. How could he not “know enough?” The man meant that Tovia did not know how to answer their specific arguments.

Tovia explained how the missionary groups operate and why Jews who do not know exactly how to respond to their propaganda should not attempt to do so.

“In reality any fundamentalist, evangelical, born again Christian is completely dedicated to and obsessed with bringing each and every one of you to the cross. When you hear terms like non-denominational, think denominational. These people are completely committed to bringing every one of you to the cross,” explained Rabbi Singer.

“There are two rules about Jewish evangelism that I never want you to forget. Rule number one, in virtually all cases the person who is likely to succeed in converting a Jew is a Messianic Jew and not a Christian missionary.” In other words, it is the Jews who have become messianic who work at bringing other Jews to Christianity.

Rabbi Singer pointed out that most of the attendees probably knew of someone who became messianic. In fact, in my own community, there was an American woman who befriended many of us and even dated a religious man. She at some point confessed to being Messianic. Her now former boyfriend and most of us who knew her were outraged and have ceased to have contact with her.

“Rule number two is that it will not be a professional missionary who approaches you [first].” It will be a lay evangelical Christian who works with a Jew or who meets Jews at a university. These people are committed to convert Jews and are trained at how to “witness” to Jews. “These are the people who are succeeding with our nation. These are the people trained effectively at how to bring you [Jews] to the cross.”

The Messianic Jews never call themselves Christian. The Christians have learned that Jews do not like the idea of being a Christian. For the last two thousand years the worst persecutions of Jews were caused by Christian hatred of Jews. So they now tell Jews that they can be Jews and believe in Jesus.

They have a Messianic Passover Haggada. In it there are still the four cups of wine and the four questions, but the questions are answered with references to the New Testament. The three pieces of matzo on the Seder table are linked to the Trinity. The breaking of the Afikomen is compared to the breaking of Jesus’ body by the Romans. The holes in the matzo are compared to the holes in Jesus from being nailed to the cross.

Unlike Jews, who do not believe in converting the world to Judaism, Christians do believe that everyone must accept Jesus. But for some reason there seems to be a Christian need to convert the Jews specifically.

“Have you ever heard of Puerto Ricans for Jesus or Moslems for Jesus,” asked Rabbi Singer. “There is an imperative to convert the Jewish people.” It is because the Jewish People must accept Jesus as the Messiah before he will return. As long as there are Jews who continue to reject him then the Jews are preventing the end of days and Jesus’ return.

The rejection by the Jews of Jesus as the messiah was also a serious blow to Christianity. This is why Rabbi Singer says that, “only the conversion of the Jew to Christianity really means anything to them.” Yes they do want all people to become Christians. But Jesus was the Jewish messiah and the Jews were supposed to accept him 2,000 years ago. The failure to do so must be corrected by converting the Jews today.

“The claim of the Church is that the claim of Christianity can be proven from the Jewish scriptures. It’s the Jewish Bible that demonstrates that Jesus was the messiah. So if that is the case who should these first followers of Jesus have been. Should they have been our sages who knew the texts or lay people?”

Rabbi Singer’s point was that the Jews back then who really did know the Torah did not accept the Christian arguments for Jesus. The first Christians were in fact Jews who did not know the Torah. The same thing is happening today. The Jews who become messianic are not people who, like Rabbi Singer, studied in Yeshivot and who really know the Torah. They are Jews who know little or nothing about their own religion.

To convert Jews they are careful in their choice of language.

They don’t say Jesus Christ to a Jew, instead Jesus Yeshua (Hebrew for savior which is what Christ means).
They don’t say convert. Instead they say become a messianic Jew.
They don’t say come to Church because Jews do not like churches and tend to be uncomfortable in them. Instead they say come to a messianic synagogue.

Messianics revel in the opposition that they get in Israel. They use incidents in Israel where they were attacked by Jews as a tool for fundraising when they speak to churches. This has the effect of causing more anti-Semitism amongst Christians who might otherwise have been Judeophiles. “Missions to the Jews are poisoning the minds of some very good people in America and Canada against the Jews.”

Rabbi Singer talked about a Jewish American treasury agent who trained agents on how to identify counterfeit money. Instead of studying phony bills, they learn everything there is to know about the real currency. They spend their time learning every detail of actual US currency including how it feels. This is because once they become experts on the real thing then they will have no trouble identifying a fake.

Rabbi Singer likens this to the cause of fighting missionaries. The best training, he says, is education of Jews. Once a Jew knows about the real thing then he will know how to spot a fake. Once a Jew really knows what the Torah says then he will not be fooled by the arguments of missionaries who quote passages from the Bible out of context.

“Listen to me brothers and sisters. Know the real thing. If you know the real Torah then no missionary will be able to rob you of your relationship with God.”

There were people who did not like that approach. Some of the attendees kept on asking the Rabbi what they can actively do to combat missionaries in Israel. Rabbi Singer just kept on saying that he had already answered the question.

Many people, myself included, when they first find out about the missionary activities, wonder why the government of Israel does not put a stop to it. Many reasons are given. The cynical think that there is a political explanation for it. The government, they believe, is too afraid of alienating the Christian fundamentalists in America on whose support it depends. Others mistakenly believe that it is because the secular government just does not care about the issue.

The fact is that Israel is a democracy with freedom of religion. Israel’s declaration of independence, unlike America’s, has the force of law here since we have no constitution. The declaration specifically guarantees freedom of religion and pledges to respect all of the many religions practiced here in Israel.

You cannot have freedom of religion and freedom of speech in any country if you do not allow people freedom of belief. You cannot stop a Jew from believing in Jesus. You cannot legally stop Christians from preaching to Jews.

There are exceptions, however, when it comes to the right of every Jew in the world to live in Israel under the Law of Return. Israel’s Supreme Court ruled in one landmark cases that a Jew who formally converted to another religion is no longer part of the Jewish People and as such has forfeited a right of return. In another case it ruled that a Messianic Jew is by definition a convert to Christianity.

The entire Jewish world accepts this fact. Even the most liberal and secular Jewish groups in North America have banned any messianic groups from the Jewish Federations.

But why are we more offended by messianics than by Christians who actively work at converting anyone of any religion to Christianity? The first reason is that these movements make the false claim that you can be a Jew and believe in Jesus. You cannot. It is that simple.

Also, messianics engage in deceit and fraud to get Jews to convert. They know what they are doing and they know that the goal is to convert the Jews. If telling Jews that they do not need to give up their Jewish identity makes it easier to convert them then so be it. Their missionaries know that their best chances are with Jews who do not know the Torah so that they can mislead them about what it actually says.

Finally, and most importantly, these groups are fronts for fundamentalist organizations that want to convert all of the Jews to Christianity. We know what they are doing and how they are going about doing it and quite frankly it pisses us off!

The answer to missionaries clearly lies, as Rabbi Singer says, in education. First Israelis and Jews around the world must be better informed about the activities of messianics. Second, and this is most important, Jewish education must be strengthened so that Jews will not only know what the Torah really does say but also understand why believing in Jesus is a red line across which one ceases to be a Jew. Outreach Judaism is an organization that works to do just that.

For more information on Outreach Judaism:

www.outreachjudaism.org

About the author

Gil

Gil Tanenbaum made aliyah from New York after he completed college. He Has lived in Israel for over 20 years. He has an MBA from Bar Ilan University and is a contributor for various blogs.

52 Comments

  • I am familiar with Rabbi Tovia Singer; His lectures and voice is like music to my ears. I was wondering if there is something I could do about a recent situation. I was born and raised Catholic and jumped from denomination back and for even to “messianic Jew” Around a decade ago reading Jewish articles and books I figure out all the xtian deceptions twisting and lies. recently this xtiasn are so desperate that I do not know why they have to suggest to me asking me; why I do not become a Muslim? It is like if they the xtian belief now that if Jews don’t convert to xtianity in a way Jews will convert to Moslems! If like in a way they want to wipe out Judaism from the face of the earth! I am so furious! Can Rabbi Singer make any comment and suggestion about this? Pleas Thank you so Much

    • I am a Jew, not an Orthodox Jew, I do not follow the Talmud or the midrash, only the Torah, the five writings by Moses also known as the Pentateuch.
      I also believe that the man in the book named “the gospel according to Matthew” was the messiah.

      I do not believe that the New Testament is accurate or scripture. I detest the writings by Paul, I detest the teachings that “Jesus Christ” (not the messiah’s name) was a god or was the creator in flesh, and I do not ascribe to any of the teachings of Christianity or these groups that call themselves messianic Judaism.

      I fully support the Jewish way of life, just as the “reform Jews” do, except that the reform Jews tend to see many of the teachings such as the dietary requirements as optional, I see them as imperative. I see scripture, that is the Torah and Tanakh, as the absolute authority on Jewish life and prophecy.
      Also view the book of Matthew as a good guide on how to live by Torah, how to prioritise kindness and obedience, how to live according to our Creator and as in insight into what the future has for us all.
      I also enjoy reading the book of James and Revelation, but acknowledge that all three of these books have been messed around with, are not original, are not devoid of intentional error and are not fully accurate, but never the less, I believe that they are BASED on truth.

      I do not believe in evangelism, I will absolutely teach anyone who wants to learn, either purely on the Torah and Tanakh teachings, or on the teachings of yeshua if people are interested.

      On the other hand, for the most part I do agree that most “Jews for Jesus” and “messianic Jews” are Christians wearing a Jewish veil in order to convert Jews. Not all, but at least the cult leaders and their followers, of which there are many online and in many messianic synagogues. They all love Paul of tarsus, the founder of Christianity, and end up becoming hateful, cruel and judgemental people.

      The problem that I face with most Jews is just the fact that I acknowledge any belief whatsoever in Yeshua as a Jewish prophet or leader (messiah) means that many treat me like I’ve punched their children in the face. They tell me I’m an apostate, they call me names, they treat me like I’m evil and they associate me with those messianic occultists, though I’m nothing but kind and loving to my fellow Jews and do not ever try to push Yeshua or “Jesus” on them in any way.

      There are many other Jews like me who feel the same way, we are absolutely Jewish but we believe in the good words and prophecies of Yeshua, but reject the clearly tainted pages of the New Testament, which is a book on which many many false religions are based, a toxic tree that grew from a seed of truth.

      Please Jews, do not hate on every “messianic Jew” just for the fact that he or she believes that this man gave sight to the blind, taught us to obey Torah but to apply it with mercy and love, and to be kind and giving, we are not your enemy, we are Jews who accept a different book to you, just as many of you accept different books such as the Babylonian or Jerusalem Talmud which we and other sects do not. We all share Abraham’s Y chromosome, we all love our Creator, we all love Israel, we all ARE Israel and we are here to salt the earth, not to argue amongst ourselves!

  • Another great article, Gil. Thank you.

    It seems to me that most of the people that fall for Messianism are simply looking for community and love, something that Christians/Messianics seem more willing to give to new people in the community than we are. If people really want to do something, I think they should be more welcoming to new people that they see in their neighborhoods and at their synagogues.

    I also think it’s important that we educate our people, not only in Judaism, but also teach comparative religions, so that people are not hearing their lame arguments for the first time when they are in a vulnerable place in their lives. It might also be worth considering buying a billboard ad near their place of gathering that explains, clearly in one sentence, why we don’t believe Jesus is the Messiah.

    And last, but not least, I think it’s important to keep an open dialogue and not shut them out. If we feel they are a threat to our community, then shame on us for not haven taken better care of our people, don’t take it out on them. Let’s remember that it’s not uncommon for many of them to be associated with the Messianic movement as only a stage in their religious journey. Let’s make sure that they know that we are not a hostile people and that they can turn to us with any questions they may have. That is how I believe we are to be a light unto the nations.

  • A beard is indicative of the more ultra orthodox Jews represented by his dress and with whom the Mir yeshiva is affiliated.

    Not.

    FWIW, bearded Mir men is actually a recent thing.

  • The j4j proof texts which they bandy about are of curse a fraud. Thanks to rabbi singers mp3’s it is very easy to obtain the kniwledge necessary to counter their ‘proofs’. Unfortunately they never accept the truth they just disagree with the interpretstion! But truth is truth. They are happy with a lie. You have to pity them for to live a lie is no life at all.

  • Isaiah 48:16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord God, and his Spirit, hath sent me.

    This is the son of David speaking, The Moshiach Who is also The Son of Elohim! Daniel 9:24-27 prove Moshiach was to appear some 2000 years ago, and so He did. He suffered and died for the sins of ALL the world, Israeli and Gentile. His Name is Yeshua and He is ready to save all who put their faith in Him. So often in the beautiful text of the Tanakh we see prophecies about Him. We even see that in Isaiah he spoke! Believe on Him, He is the Glory of the children of Jacob!

    • PLEASE DO NOT even try to begin to spew such nonsense! Daniel does NOT prove in any way that the Moshiach was supposed to come 2,000 years ago, because the Moshiach would have been able to come at ANY time if the generation had been deemed worthy. There is a time frame where he must come by. He must come before the Hebrew year 7000.

    • Total nonsense. We real Jews know the truth from the Torah which HaShem gave to Moshe to give and teach to the Jewish people. Jesus was a Jew, who understood Torah but left Judaism and started his own group which made him leader so he had recognition and power which he desired. A Jew who renounces the holy Torah and declares himself a “son” of G-D, is not considered a true Jew. Jews do not believe in G-D as a man,or having any physicality. To us Yeshke was just a man and has NO significance in Judaism. Its insulting and wrong to give us your lies,fake, and truly a bunch of illogical propaganda and expect real learned and practicing Jews to take you seriously. You prey on confused and unaffiliated weak Jews and work them over. Jews do not believe in Jesus. Period

      • Benjamin H. Freedman, Jewish Historian (Researcher/Scholar).
        From “Common Sense”, p. 2-1-53 and 5-1-59 –

        “Christians have been duped by the unholiest hoax in all history, by so-called Jews. This is considered their most effective weapon.”

        “This ‘big lie’ technique is brainwashing United States Christians into believing that Jesus Christ was “King of the Jews”, in the sense that so-called ‘Jews’ today call themselves ‘Jews’. This reference was first made in English translations of the Old and New Testaments, centuries before the so-called Jews hijacked the word ‘Jew’ in the 18th century A.D. to palm themselves off on the Christian world as having a kinship with Jesus Christ. This alleged kinship comes from the myth of their common ancestry with the so-called ‘Jews’ of the Holy Land in the Old Testament history, a fiction based on fable.”

        “American Christians little suspect they are being brainwashed twenty-four hours of every day over television and radio, by newspapers and magazines, by motion pictures and plays, by books, by political leaders in office and seeking office, by religious leaders in their pulpits and outside their churches, by leaders in the field of education inside and outside their curricular activities, and by all leaders in business, professions and finance, whose economic security demands that they curry the favor of so-called “Jews” of historic Khazar ancestry. Unsuspecting Christians are subjected to this barrage from sources they have little reason to suspect. Incontestable facts supply the un-challengeable proof of the historic accuracy that so-called “Jews” throughout the world today of eastern European origin are unquestionably the historic descendants of the Khazars, a pagan Turko-Finn ancient Mongoloid nation deep in the heart of Asia, according to history, who battled their way in bloody wars about the 1st century B.C. into eastern Europe where they set up their Khazar kingdom. For some mysterious reason the history of the Khazar kingdom is conspicuous by its absence from history courses in the schools and colleges.

        “The historic existence of the Khazar kingdom of so-called “Jews”, their rise and fall, the permanent disappearance of the Khazar kingdom as a nation from the map of Europe, and how King Bulan and the Khazar nation in about 740 A.D. became so-called “Jews” by conversion, were concealed from American Christians by censorship imposed by so-called “Jews”, of historic Khazar ancestry, upon all U.S.A. media of mass communications directed by them. Then in 1945 this author gave nation-wide publicity to his many years intensive research into the “facts of life” concerning Khazars. The disclosures were sensational and very effective but apparently angered so-called “Jews” who have continued to vent their spleen upon this author since then solely for that reason. Since 1946 they have conducted a vicious smear campaign against him, seeking thus to further conceal these facts, for obvious reasons. What have they to fear from the truth?

        “In an original 1903 edition of the Jewish Encyclopedia in New York’s Public Library, and in the Library of Congress, Volume IV, pages 1 to 5 inclusive, appears a most comprehensive history of the Khazars. Also in the New York Public Library are 327 books by the world’s greatest historians and other sources of reference, in addition to the Jewish Encyclopedia, dealing with Khazar history, and written between the 3rd A.D. and 20th centuries by contemporaries of the Khazars and by modern historians on that subject.”

        Jesus was a ‘Judean’, not a Jew.

        During His lifetime, no persons were described as “Jews” anywhere. That fact is supported by theology, history and science. When Jesus was in Judea, it was not the “homeland” of the ancestors of those who today style themselves “Jews”. Their ancestors never set a foot in Judea. They existed at that time in Asia, their “homeland”, and were known as Khazars. In none of the manuscripts of the original Old or New Testament was Jesus described or referred to as a “Jew”. The term originated in the late eighteenth century as an abbreviation of the term Judean and refers to a resident of Judea without regard to race or religion, just as the term “Texan” signifies a person living in Texas.

        In spite of the powerful propaganda effort of the so-called “Jews”, they have been unable to prove in recorded history that there is one record, prior to that period, of a race religion or nationality, referred to as “Jew”. The religious sect in Judea, in the time of Jesus, to which self-styled “Jews” today refer to as “Jews”, were known as “Pharisees”. “Judaism” today and “Pharisaism” in the time of Jesus are the same.

        Jesus abhorred and denounced “Pharisaism”; hence the words, “Woe unto you Scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites, Ye Serpents, Ye Generation of Vipers”.

        Benjamin Freedman in his suppressed classic: “Facts are Facts”, dealing with this very important issue says: “Incontestable historic facts and an abundance of other proofs establish beyond the possibility of any doubt the incredibility of the assertion so often heard today that ‘Jesus was a Jew’. Without any fear of contradiction based upon the most competent and best-qualified authorities all agree that Jesus Christ was not a so-called or self-styled ‘Jew’.
        They now confirm that during His lifetime Jesus was known as a ‘Judean’ by His contemporaries and not as a ‘Jew’ and that Jesus referred to Himself as a ‘Judean’ and NOT as a ‘Jew’.

        Inscribed upon the Cross when Jesus was crucified were the Latin words ‘Iesus Nazarenus Rex Iudeorum’. Pontius Pilate was the author of that infamous inscription. Latin was Pontius Pilate’s mother-tongue. No one will question the fact that Pontius Pilate was well able to accurately express his own ideas in his own mother tongue. The authorities competent to pass upon the correct translation into English of the Latin ‘Iesus Nazarenus Rex Iudeorum’ agree that it is ‘Jesus the Nazarene Ruler of the Judeans”.

        Theologians and churchmen, willingly ignorant of true history, blaspheme and accuse Jesus Christ of being a Jew, but Christ Jesus (Yeshua), the Only-Begotten Son of God, never subscribed to the teachings of the Talmud. He was therefore never a Jew either by religion, nor was He a Jew politically, bent on conquering the world through the philosophy of Babylonian Talmudism – that is, subscribing to world Zionist megalomania.
        It is therefore very important to understand that the Bible never says that Jesus of Nazareth was a Jew. It specifically says that Jesus was a JUDE-AN. 😉
        The Bible never says that Jesus was King of the Jews. The Bible says that Jesus was King of the JUDEANS, a Biblical term referring to the ISRAELITE ADA-MICS who lived in Judea and who were the pure racial descendants of Abraham, where some of whom had fallen for the lies of the Talmudic Pharisees.

      • Funny, ALL I see is Yeshua teaching Torah… “Obey the commandments” “He who teaches against the least commandment is called least in heaven” and he’s always quoting from the Torah, mainly Deuteronomy and also the Tanakh.

        But yeah, keep burning strawmen based on church theology and not what Yeshua taught… Everyone who has to use a strawman argumend does so because their stance is wrong and they cannot argue the true point… It’s one step behind personal attack.

      • Funny, ALL I see, and anyone could possibly see who reads the records, is Yeshua teaching Torah… “Obey the commandments” “He who teaches against the least commandment is called least in heaven” and he’s always quoting from the Torah, mainly Deuteronomy and also the Tanakh.

        But yeah, keep burning strawmen based on church theology and not what Yeshua taught… Everyone who has to use a strawman argumend does so because their stance is wrong and they cannot argue the true point… It’s one step behind personal attack.

  • Christians are idolaters. They do not worship G-d; they worship something other and that other is evil incarnate.

    Their translations of Torah are deliberately crafted to support their lies that Jesus was anything else than what he was, a simple human being, no less nor more Divine than anyone else.

    They will come before G-d and answer for their sins.

    And it won’t be pretty.

    • Hershup Hershi. “One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you’re right but not enough to know you’re wrong.” – Neil deGrasse Tyson

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