(cross-posted from Kosher Eucharist)
I was browsing through the sites that link to Jewlicious today, and I stumbled upon a most curious post on Israpundit. Now, I was fuzzily aware that Israpundit was one of those right-wing, chest-thumpingly pro-Israel sites written by Jews who, of course, don’t live in Israel and seem to spend most of their time eagerly humping the legs of their Evangelical masters – but I never really paid any attention, mostly because the only thing worse than simpering, bleeding-heart leftist Jews are impotent, bloodlust-filled rightist Jews. But this post wasn’t content with the normal right-wing verbal masturbation – this is full-on right-wing verbal whips ‘n’ chains leather crazy sex.
Onto the post itself, in all of its twirly-eyed, theremin-music glory:
Can a good Muslin become a good American or Canadian?
I received this email:
I sent that question to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years. The following is his reply:
Theologically – no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of Arabia.
Religiously – no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256).
Scripturally – no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam and the Quran (Koran).
Geographically – no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.
Socially – no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.
Politically – no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and Destruction of America, the great Satan.
Domestically – no. Because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).
Intellectually – no. Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
Philosophically – no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and __expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist.Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Spiritually – no. Because when we declare “one nation under God,†the Christian’s God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran’s 99 excellent names.
Therefore after much study and deliberation….perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both “good†Muslims and good Americans or Canadians.
Oh God, oh God, oh God, it’s so stupid my nose is bleeding!
Let’s play my new favorite game, Substitution, again!
Can a good Jew become a good German?
I sent that question to a friend who worked in Poland for 20 years. The following is his reply:
Theologically – no. Because his allegiance is to Yahweh, the desert god of Palestine.
Religiously – no. Because no other religion is accepted by his God (Exodus 20:2).
Scripturally – no. Because his allegiance is to the five books of Moses and the Talmud.
Geographically – no. Because his allegiance is to Jerusalem, to which he turns in prayer three times a day.
Socially – no. Because his allegiance to Judaism forbids him to make friends with Christians.
Politically – no. Because he must submit to the rabbis, who teach annihilation of the pagan nations and the eventual servitude of non-Jews to Jews in the Messianic Era.
Domestically – no. Because he is instructed to cut off his wife’s hand for slights as minor as breaking up a fight between her husband and another man by grabbing the man’s genitals (Deuteronomy 25:11).
Intellectually – no. Because he cannot accept German Law since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the half of the Bible to be corrupt.
Philosophically – no. Because Judaism, Moses, and the Talmud do not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Judaism cannot co-exist. Every Jewish government has been either dictatorial or autocratic.
Spiritually – no. Because when we declare “one nation under God,†the Christian’s God is loving and kind, whereas the Jews’ God is the vengeful God of the Old Testament.
Therefore after much study and deliberation….perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL JEWS in this country. They obviously cannot be both “good†Jews and good Germans.
Watch out, motherfuckers! That slope’s slippe–too late.
I mean, really, I hate to get all Godwin’s Law on you here, but we’ve heard this rhetoric before…somewhere…my knowledge of history is admittedly incomplete, but I seem to recall it ended somewhat badly.
Oh, but there’s more! I also discovered, in the midst of my Jewlicious link browsing, this asshole. You see, he’s decided to compile a list of his first actions upon being elected as Prime Minister of Israel (it’s fun to pretend!). Among his revolutionary ideas:
4. Arab Israelis and Palestinians would be allowed to continue participating in Israeli elections. However, since their numbers are on the rise while the Jewish population of Israel is receding, Palestinians would be given the equalent of “half a vote” in all elections, whether primaries of general elections for the Knesset.
I, for one, completely agree. The Negro has not been gifted by the good Lord with the same native faculties as the white man, and it is the Christian’s burden to civilize him and wean him away from his jungle habits and to show him the light of democracy, and even to let him participate to the fullest extent of his potential, which is of course 3/5 that of the white man’s. Also, a woman’s right to vote is redundant, because they only double the vote of their husband, and they could be spending that time struggling to wrap their feeble minds around the issues of the day making kugel.
I have my own promise. If this guy gets elected Prime Minister, I’m going to commit hara-kiri. On his doorstep. While he’s away, so I’ll have started to turn a little by the time he gets back. There’s nothing that can’t be made better by spite.
Okay, but for once, in all seriousness: the fact that even a few people on the right have come to deem this manner of rhetoric acceptable to freely discuss in public, instead of hiding it deep in their black little hearts in hopes nobody commits them, is a little alarming. Perhaps instead of building yet another flagellating Holocaust memorial in a city that doesn’t even have Jews (coming soon: Ulaan Bataar’s Holocaust Memorial Center!), we should honor the memory of those who perished by guarding ourselves from the kind of rhetoric that led to their deaths in the first place.
Or we could just do the hara-kiri thing. I mean, if you’re cool with it.
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Shy Guy, being a non-tailor, and Packen, giving me immaterial, and how exactly am I supposed to suit myself?
I can barely suit myself in the foot!
Oyster, suit yourself.
Packen, your comment is immaterial to this conversation. :-p
Michael,
Maybe it is good that your nose is bleeding so you get a small taste of how the whole world is bleeding and dying from the actions and belief system of the Islamic world
I mean, the dear sweet well meaning people who would like to just “all get along”. Universalists. I sympathize. It even worked for sixty years. The Citizen Yid. I love the USA. I am thrilled that communism is dead. It died of its own internal contradictions.
However, there is a problem and I know what it is and I know it has to come out even or it’s curtains.
I am deeply bored. This is the thirties all over again. THERE ARE NO NEW ISSUES. If I am going to live in interesting times, can’t I at least live in interesting times? You lot have NO IDEA how re-tread and re-run all this is. The self-hating Jews of the left. The genocidal nuts on the march. The self serving bureaucrats who could care less. The galant soldiers who do their best. All we need is a young girl named Anne Frank to complete the picture.
It’s not only scary, it is so deeply boring. Bored, bored, bored. WHY can’t life be interesting? I think people are resigned to the take-over exactly because they are so numb and just plain bored.
Since Michael and
allmany other Jewish liberals feel their is no problem with mass Muslim immigration to the U.S., I know he will support open immigration of Muslims to the Zionist Entity in order to be consistent.More than a few Jews believe a lot of those things (about Judaism) too. Don’t believe me? I can introduce you to some. Or just step into Machon Meir.
That’s exactly the point. Some of Jews do, but there are so few that you have to make introductions. No-one needs to be introduced to al-Qaeda.
As for ‘tarnishing’ the whole Muslim population with the jihadi brush, the problem is that it isn’t 10% nasty, 90% nice. There’s a lot of craziness in between. ~40% of British Muslims supporting terrorism against British Jews, for instance.
Haha, Packen. If only Emily Litella was still around.
But getting back to the matter at hand, Amechad & Co should get real or it’s kiss Europe goodbye.
Oy, so much ado about nothing…
“Can a good Muslin become a good American or Canadian?”
According to Wikipedia: “Muslin is a type of finely-woven cotton fabric, introduced to Europe from the Middle East in the 17th century. The first recorded use in England was in 1670.”
So if it was good enough for the British to use it for over 400 years without any problems, I would think that Americans and Canadians could put it to good use as well.
In Europe, I have found the muslims are friendly until you mention Israel. For example, in Amsterdam, these small shops that do telephone calls for you, they have lists of countries that are served, including, not only Iraq, but various cities, not only land lines, also cell. But Israel is missing from this list.
No one ever calls them on this. It;s ok to diss Israel if you are a muslim and/or a leftist.
That is their sick version of ‘world peace’.
Amechad, if there are more on their “side,” why is that?
Also, if you have a substantial population – let’s say 1.2 million in a city like London, and know that approximately 7-10% are “extremists” whose extremism may involve a violent outcome, how do you express this without appearing to be bigoted? What steps do you take to prevent potential violence? After all, if you do it to them, don’t you have to do it to everybody else since it’s clear that people like Timothy McVeigh also blow things up? Then again, you only have limited resources, so where should you focus these resources?
Okay, Michael. You are correct. But reasonable fascists like myself are not worried that mass Muslim immigration is a problem for the majority. We are worried about the small minority.
But let me be brutally honest. It simply isn’t in the Jewish community’s (or the Zionist Entity’s) interest to have the US overrun by our ideological opponents. Bad strategy.
In the off chance that our pivotal voting numbers in select states of the Electoral College,–and yes, our lobbies–have anything to do with shaping policy — we need to rethink our stance on immigration.
Before flinging flippy words around about our fellow Jews like “The Left!” “The Right!” and “Oy!” remember that everybody has a right to his own opinion, but everybody does not have a right to his own facts. So said an excellent man, a well-known sagacious realist, the now deceased Senator from New York, Daniel P. Moynihan.
Post 12 is highly significant, honest and useful, in my opinion. So does mine.
Tiny minority of extremists.
Sure.
Let’s cut to the chase.
No, there are extremists on both sides (OK, more on their side) and we shouldn’t tarnish the whole group on the basis of a few or many (less then 10% of all Muslims, according to Daniel Pipes = a small minority even if it is millions) extremists.
That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t oppose the 10% but we shouldn’t oppose the 90% that aren’t!
Oh good, we’re all the same then. Wonderful. What a beautiful world.
You don’t actually believe that stuff about Islam, do you?
More than a few Muslims believe a lot of those things…
More than a few Jews believe a lot of those things (about Judaism) too. Don’t believe me? I can introduce you to some. Or just step into Machon Meir.
You don’t actually believe that stuff about Islam, do you?
More than a few Muslims believe a lot of those things…
The only thing I can’t stand about the right who is based in the Diaspora, is, usually they have never served in the IDF, ala a very famous screen writer who is known to Middle, and so, their gung ho militantism, is not done, w/ the fact that their own children will have to lead the battle and participate therein, but someone else’s kids, one of the ISraelis, not him.
This upsets me to no end. as having lived there I exprienced loss of relatives and close friends in the wars.
At the very least, they should shut up, raise money for needs in Israel, that’s enough.
Many think it is easy, and I admit I was of this opinion that Ehud Olmert is simply either mentally ill, or should retire, ala Dov Hikind.
I see now that it is not every man, that can send hundreds of boys and men to their deaths just ipso facto willy nilly.
My mind hurts.
Jewish Mother & Rabbi Yonah:
You don’t actually believe that stuff about Islam, do you?
This is not a tolerance, civil rights time, Michael. If only it were. We have got good at that, and it would be so nice if that were the problem.
People love to look for their keys under the streetlight. Even though they dropped them in the dark alley.
Michael, it’s NOT hateful rhetoric. Your analogy does not work at all.
When people get scared they run to what they understand and insist things can be explained by what worked last time.
People just love to fight the last war. They understand the dynamics and the issues and they know how it ended.
So, it comforts them to assume future situations can be explained as similar.
But they can’t.
No, but the Nazis did. Truth has never stood up to hateful rhetoric, which is the entire point I’m trying to make.
Michael, Jewish teaching has always said that non-Jews who obey the seven Noahide laws are holy, and very nice, and will go to Paradise after death.
Jewish teaching has always said that “the law of the land is the law” and Jews can, and should, respect the laws of the country they live in
Jewish teaching has said non-Jews deserve respect and honesty in business, etc.
Jewish teach has always said the view of the community counts, which is democratic. Discussion is our soul.
As for the wife, and her interfering in a fight, that hasn’t happened in recorded memory. I dare you to find an actual example of this being done, at any time in the past.
This is not the sixties. It is more like the thirties. But with new twists.
What is Godwin’s law?
Another law is that the force of evil specializes in using people’s virtues against them. That is much cleverer than simply appealing to their liking for vice. They are ready for that, and know how to say no to that. But when the force of evil says, “why are you collecting for the poor brides? What a waste of your valuable time. You should be studying Talmud. You have precious insights to contribute. Somebody without your gifts should be collecting for the poor brides,”
That is the genius of the force of evil, or darkness.
I know, I know, you don’t think there is any such thing. I am not talking about a Halloween costume with plastic horns and a tail.
Youth is a self-limiting disease. Be patient.
There writings do not represent the real “right.”
From Jabotinsky:
If we had a majority in the country, we would first of all create a situation of complete equality of rights, without exception. Jew or Arab, Armenian or German, there would be no distinctions in the eyes of the law, all ways will be open before all, all may be eligible to be prime minister, if their program finds favor with the majority.
The status of an Arab in the Land of Israel will be exactly equivalent to that of a Scot or Welshman in England. Balfour is Scottish and is proud of his identity, Lloyd George is Welsh and is proud of his identity, and both of them were prime ministers in Britain, and thus it must be in the Hebrew Land of Israel that will come.
A better sort of batty link.
Cheers, ‘VJ’
You dont really believe any of that stuff you wrote about Judaism do you Michael?
am echad,
I wouldn’t put Stand With Us in the same category – they do good advocacy work and don’t engage in hateful rhetoric.
I agree what you say about the rightists, but I wouldn’t put them lower than the bleeding-heart leftists. At least the rightists are on our side.
This made me laugh:
…those right-wing, chest-thumpingly pro-Israel sites written by Jews who, of course, don’t live in Israel and seem to spend most of their time eagerly humping the legs of their Evangelical masters – but I never really paid any attention, mostly because the only thing worse than simpering, bleeding-heart leftist Jews are impotent, bloodlust-filled rightist Jews…
I agree 100% (oy, don’t ask). It’s not a few people on the right but most of the Diaspora Jewish right. I could name names, but I won’t.