Not with me, obviously, but with football (“soccer” for all of those that cannot pronounce “aluminium” and therefore say “aluminum”).

Tonight, it’s Bayern Munich vs Maccabi Haifa (kick-off is at 8:45pm CET). Bayern needs to win this match pretty badly to stay in the Champions League (and get backed by Bordeaux in Girdondins Bordeaux vs Juventus Turin). Eh, I don’t like Bayern Munich. So, go Maccabi!

And here’s to Jewlicious’ own Raphi, whose birthday it was last week:

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  • Thank you, thank you, far too kind!!!!

    The last time i made an all anglo audience listen to this best of all soccer anthems was in 2004 (i think), when i was a dj at yeshiva university’s radio station and FC Cologne had just been relegated again to 2nd division.

    more ppl need to hear this masterpiece, this oath of true loyalty, this ode to joy, this ultimate statement of sacrifice for a really truly good cause. “janz ejal wat passiert, FC KOELLE!

  • I dunno. Whenever I hear a stadium full of Germans chanting, I just naturally get nervous. But I guess this is ok if you swear this has nothing at all to do with a 4th or 5th Reich. Given the crappy cinematography, I can gain some comfort at least knowing that Lily Riefenstahl is truly and completely dead.

    • Don’t you worry. That football team has repeatedly and openly taken a stance against racism and anti-Semitism in particular and has promoted those ideas among their fans.

      • Man, futbol clubs in Europe do a whole lot more than entertain by having grown men in shorts kick a ball around interminably in the hopes of scoring 1 or 2 goals!

  • Froylein – no comments about the MASSIVE FRAUD in the global warming camp – the emails that reveal falsification of evidence and attempts to shut up skeptics?

    The scientific community is buzzing over thousands of emails and documents — posted on the Internet last week after being hacked from a prominent climate-change research center — that some say raise ethical questions about a group of scientists who contend humans are responsible for global warming.

    Some emails also refer to efforts by scientists who believe man is causing global warming to exclude contrary views from important scientific publications.

    That’s the Wall Street Journal – one of the few mainstream media outlets not covering for the global warming fraudsters.

    Here are three things everyone should know about the Climategate Papers.

    First, the scientists discuss manipulating data to get their preferred results. The most prominently featured scientists are paleoclimatologists, who reconstruct historical temperatures and who were responsible for a series of reconstructions that seemed to show a sharp rise in temperatures well above historical variation in recent decades.

    In 1999, Phil Jones, the head of CRU, wrote to activist scientist Michael “Mike” Mann that he has just “completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps … to hide the decline”. This refers to a decline in temperatures in recent years revealed by the data he had been reconstructing that conflicted with the observed temperature record. The inconvenient data was therefore hidden under a completely different set of data. Some “trick.”

    In addition, emails by computer programmers at the institute give evidence of tampering with data sets to make them fit expected models.

    Second, scientists on several occasions attempted to subvert the scientific peer review process to prevent publication of skeptical papers. This issue is important because the scientists involved have repeatedly accused their critics of being irrelevant because they fail to publish in the peer reviewed literature! If you say that you will not take notice of someone until they have been published – while working behind the scenes to stop any such publication – that is not a legitimate scientific process.

    In 2003, Tom Wigley of the University Corporation for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado, complained that paleoclimatologist Hans von Storch was responsible for “the publication of crap science ‘in order to stimulate debate’” and that they “must get rid of von Storch” (Link) as an editor of the journal Climate Research (he indeed subsequently resigned).

    Finally, the scientists worked to circumvent the Freedom of Information process of the United Kingdom. They deleted data and refused to hand it over when FOI requests were filed.

  • B-D, stay on topic. I’m not interested in again trying to explain the nuances of ecological research to you. But you might try to figure out who/what the Wall Street Journal is covering for.

  • It is quiet common in Germany – or in parts of Germany, to dislike Bayern München. Most people quote common reasons for that: It is the club of the “fat cats” the “money is playing soccer club”, the “rich person’s club” and some other reasons anti-Semites quote as “jewish features”. The Nazis taunted Bayern as the “Jew’s club” because they had jewish a jewish president and a coach as long as possible. Even after the shoah, famous Kurt Landauer remained president for many years and obviously Bayern remained the “Jew’s club” in the back of the minds…

  • ck, know what you mean about thousands of German voices shouting out the same stuff at the same time, especially when it’s “Sieg”. Only a minority shout this out but the ears always manage to lock onto it.

    In defence of football though I think it has the best fan songs of any sport. For instance:

    “We are England, we are England, no one likes us, we don’t care” (sung to “We are Sailing”) used to be popular at away games.


    “Let ‘im die, let ‘im die, let ‘im die (sung to “Stars and Stripes Forever”) is still a favourite when one of the opposing team’s players goes down after a bad tackle.

    Finally, with respects to you “Die Jew”, and, writing as a person of no faith, I bet you wouldn’t make that last comment face to face with any one of the users of this site, apart from maybe a girl. The internet is where your type feels most secure.

  • Guys, guys, guys; that song is sung in the native language of Cologne, which is Ripuarian.

    Chajm, I think most people just dislike Bayern Munich because they don’t support them. I’d similarly have commented on Werder Bremen and added a clip with the singing of “Was ist grün und stinkt nach Fisch? – Werder Bremen” (= What’s green and smell of fish? – Werder Bremen”; sung to the tune of “Michael, row the boat ashore”). I’ll save you from what I could have sung about Schalke04. 🙂 BTW, have you read Davidstern und Lederball? I wonder if it’s worth buying.

    Die Jew, ich werde mich kurz fassen: Fick Dich.

    Tom, you are indeed risking those cookies, Sir.

  • It is just as proper for Americans to say aluminum as it is for them to say airplane instead of aeroplane.

  • The only reason why you losers are allowed to live is because of the Christian Right. If they didn’t support you, you’d be nothing. They are disgraceful as you are.

  • George Galloway MP (British House of Commons), is that you disguising yourself as “Die Jew”?

    • Why Brian?? “Die Jew” just means “The Jew” in German. You should know that now that you are, inexplicably, a Hamburger.

  • Froylein:
    B-D stay on topic.
    – – – – – – – – – – – –
    Alright, post a thread on this.

    I’m not interested in again trying to explain the nuances of ecological research to you.
    – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –
    … especially as such research is now shown to include falsifying data, jiggering computer models – and then obscuring the evidence from peer review.

    But you might try to figure out who/what the Wall Street Journal is covering for.
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    UK Telegraph:
    Climate change scientists face calls for public inquiry over data manipulation claims
    Leading British climate change scientists are facing calls for a public inquiry after hacked email exchanges appeared to indicate that scientific data may have been manipulated to strengthen the case for man-made global warming.
    “On the face of it, looks like the raw data was being manipulated in order to prove what they wanted to prove,” said Lord Lawson. “They were talking about destroying various files in order to prevent data being revealed under the Freedom of Information Act and they were trying to prevent other dissenting scientists from having their articles published in learned journals.


    CBS News (USA):
    In global warming circles, the CRU wields outsize influence: it claims the world’s largest temperature data set, and its work and mathematical models were incorporated into the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s 2007 report. That report, in turn, is what the Environmental Protection Agency acknowledged it “relies on most heavily” when concluding that carbon dioxide emissions endanger public health and should be regulated.

    Last week’s leaked e-mails range from innocuous to embarrassing and, critics believe, scandalous. They show that some of the field’s most prominent scientists were so wedded to theories of man-made global warming that they ridiculed dissenters who asked for copies of their data, cheered the deaths of skeptical journalists, and plotted to keep researchers who reached different conclusions from publishing in peer-reviewed journals.

    In addition to e-mail messages, the roughly 3,600 leaked documents include computer code and a description of how an unfortunate programmer named “Harry” — possibly the CRU’s Ian “Harry” Harris — was tasked with resuscitating and updating a key temperature database that proved to be problematic. Some excerpts from what appear to be his notes, emphasis added:

    I am seriously worried that our flagship gridded data product is produced by Delaunay triangulation – apparently linear as well. As far as I can see, this renders the station counts totally meaningless. It also means that we cannot say exactly how the gridded data is arrived at from a statistical perspective


    Sydney Morning Herald:
    Climate doomsayers caught out
    We knew but never before had seen such proof of bad faith, overwhelming in its small detail, its shameless dishonesty, its meanness, its totalitarian tactics, pouncing on every deviation from The Word, as handed down by the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

    The head of the agenda-setting Climate Research Unit, Phil Jones, in an email to Ray Bradley, Michael Mann, and Malcolm Hughes, the American scientists who created the now discredited ”hockey stick” graphs, which claim to show rapidly escalating temperatures is quoted thus: ”I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (i.e. from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline.”

    Mann, in another email dated Oct 27, 2009, writes: ”As we all know, this isn’t about truth at all, it’s about plausibly deniable accusations.”


    Ottawa Citizen (Canada):
    The skeptics are vindicated
    A computer hacker in England has done the world a service by making available a huge quantity of evidence for the way in which “human-induced global warming” claims have been advanced over the years…. how all modern science works when vast amounts of public funding is at stake and when the vested interests associated with various “progressive” causes require a particular scientific result.

    Astonishingly, what appears, at least at first blush, to have emerged is that (a) the scientists have been manipulating the raw temperature figures to show a relentlessly rising global warming trend; (b) they have consistently refused outsiders access to the raw data; (c) the scientists have been trying to avoid freedom of information requests; and (d) they have been discussing ways to prevent papers by dissenting scientists being published in learned journals.


    The Atlantic Monthly (USA):
    The Real Problem With the Climate Science Emails
    I think most people–including me–missed the biggest part of the climate emails story. Sexing up a graph is at best a misdemeanor. But a Declan McCullough story suggests a more disturbing possibility: the CRU’s main computer model may be, to put it bluntly, complete rubbish.

    The emails seem to describe a model which frequently breaks, and being constantly “tweaked” with manual interventions of dubious quality in order to make them fit the historical data. These stories suggest that the model, and the past manual interventions, are so poorly documented that CRU cannot now replicate its own past findings.

    That is a big problem. The IPCC report, which is the most widely relied upon in policy circles, uses this model to estimate the costs of global warming. If those costs are unreliable, then any cost-benefit analysis is totally worthless.

    Obviously, this also casts their reluctance to conform with FOI requests in a slightly different light.


    • I don’t post threads but posts and I post as it pleases me and I find something to post about and if I can squeeze posting into my schedule. I’m certainly not interested in posting anything of actual importance already seeing how tinted with colloquial use of language your sources are (hint: inappropriate register and weak grammar are not considered typical of quality papers). This post and thread are about football. Feel free to contribute to that conversation.

  • Climategate-a-quiddick means Obama can skip saving the planet and move on to founding a Palestinian state.

    • …or a rough rider filled up with Christ’s love… shoved in where the sun don’t shine.

  • Times of London:
    Climate change data dumped

    SCIENTISTS at the University of East Anglia (UEA) have admitted throwing away much of the raw temperature data on which their predictions of global warming are based.

    It means that other academics are not able to check basic calculations said to show a long-term rise in temperature over the past 150 years.

    The admission follows the leaking of a thousand private emails sent and received by Professor Phil Jones, the CRU’s director. In them he discusses thwarting climate sceptics seeking access to such data.

    The CRU is the world’s leading centre for reconstructing past climate and temperatures. Climate change sceptics have long been keen to examine exactly how its data were compiled. That is now impossible.

    Roger Pielke, professor of environmental studies at Colorado University, discovered data had been lost when he asked for original records. “The CRU is basically saying, ‘Trust us’. So much for settling questions and resolving debates with science,” he said.


  • ck – So now I’m confused! I hate it when I don’t spot someone joking around so I hope Die Jew really is this site’s guest anti-semite. I think I’m right though as the German for Jew (f) is die Jüdin. All the best from Hamburgyburgy (home to two football clubs – I put that comment in there for you Froylein!)

  • Brian, Moin Moin! Did you know that FC St. Pauli and Cologne have got a fan “alliance”? There even are fan scarves devoted to both clubs in one.