who fights with molotov cocktails and refuses to obey the rule of law? As one IDF officer said “[They] have forgotten what it means to live in a state of law…They think everything is permissible.” From Jpost:


The Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) is investigating a Molotov cocktail attack on a military jeep, which occurred Sunday during a violent clash between settlers and security forces at the unauthorized Gilad Farm outpost in the West Bank.

Although the incident received wide media attention on Sunday, the Shin Bet waited until Tuesday night before it announced that during the fray, settlers had thrown a firebomb at an army jeep.

Sources in the IDF’s Central Command said that the Molotov cocktail attack was the first time in recent years that settlers used such extreme means against soldiers.

The firebomb is said to have landed close to the jeep, without causing damage, and a fire erupted but was quickly extinguished.

“These settlers have forgotten what it means to live in a state of law,” said an IDF officer. “They think everything is permissible.”

The sources said that the firebomb was considered a major escalation and was an example of the fierce resistance security forces would likely face when trying to evacuate 23 illegal outposts erected after March 2001.

Located outside of the Kedumim settlement, Gilad Farm is among those outposts slated for removal.

IDF Chief of General Staff Lt.-Gen. Gabi Ashkenazi has said he would prefer that the Border Police carry out the physical evacuation when it occurs in the coming months.

Itai Zar, whose family owns and created the outpost and was present during Sunday’s clashes, disputed the Shin Bet’s claim. He said that he had not witnessed any Molotov cocktail attack and that no one from his outpost, which is home to 20 families and a small yeshiva, had thrown a firebomb.

The incident started Sunday when a civil administration representative saw settlers moving a caravan from one end of the outpost to another.

The settlers reportedly ignored his request that the caravan be returned to its original spot.

Security forces, including border policemen and soldiers, were immediately dispatched to the scene.

Central Command sources said that dozens of settlers and far-right activists accosted the civil administration official as well as security forces.

A border policeman was lightly hurt in the ensuing scuffle, and treated at Kfar Saba’s Meir Hospital.

Settlers also punctured the tire of a security vehicle, they said.

Settlers, in turn, charged that they had been physically assaulted by security personnel, but no casualties were reported.

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  • Ben David, I said that when a Palestinian commits an act of terror, then they destroy his house. Throwing a firebomb into a crowded restaurant would count as terror, throwing a firebomb at a soldier would not. Throwing bricks, etc. never counted as terror attacks, as you well know and after reading me for years, presumably you know that I know.

    I assumed the outpost was built legally, so don’t write as if that’s what I wrote.

    But you haven’t dealt with the key issue here. Israelis, living under the protection of the IDF, attacked IDF soldiers with material that could injure severely and possibly even kill. There isn’t any justification for such an attack and this game which is being played by some extremist settlers of making life challenging and sometimes dangerous for Israeli soldiers is not a game, it’s actually a crime. The Israeli government needs to put a stop to it and my proposal is that they do it very aggressively and demonstrate that the price to pay for these crimes will be severe.

  • Last time I checked,
    – – – – – – – –
    – and when WAS the last time you checked, Middle?

    No Pali ever had his house torn down over a molotov cocktail.

    Are you SURE you know the IDF protocol for dealing with Pali “incitement” at this level – including not just molotov cocktails, but bricks, cinderblocks, and fist-sized rocks?

    It depends on the area of the patrol, but more often than not it involves “turning the other cheek” to avoid international incident.

    When I first moved to this area (1991) the army jeeps just had wire-reinforced glass windshields. Because back then there was real deterrence.

    Only during Oslo were these augmented with wire screens to ward of bricks and boulders.

    Soldiers know they can’t get out and shoot – even in the air – or they’ll be hauled before a military review board.

    Oh, and the “illegal outpost” is a homestead legally purchased from its Arab owner – as finally established after numerous legal challenges.

    Get a clue or two before you pull the armchair general shtick.

  • You issue a broad warning to all outposts regarding such attacks. One strike and they are out. One attack on soldiers or Palestinians (not in self-defense of course) and the outpost is disposed of.

    Throwing a firebomb is a violent crime and there is no room for sympathy here. If they throw one, or attack in any other way, they should lose their property and be forced to move. Last time I checked, when a Palestinian commits an act of terror, the IDF destroys his home even if the terrorist is dead. The same rule should apply to Israelis who commit attacks like this, only the response should be harsher in that the entire community around this person is punished. I bet after the IDF handles it like this once, there won’t be any further attacks.