The Forward has published an interesting editorial outlining that Cheney’s speech at the AIPAC conference amounts to a hardball tactic dictating that ongoing support of Israel’s interests may be contingent upon Jewish support of the Bush administration and its Iraq policy.

Friends owe it to friends to be as candid as possible,” Vice President Dick Cheney told the 6,200 delegates at this week’s annual gathering of Aipac, the vaunted pro-Israel lobbying organization. “So let me say that a precipitous American withdrawal from Iraq would be a disaster for the United States and the entire Middle East.”

Cheney’s problem is that American Jews remain, at heart, liberals and Democrats. They have never shared this administration’s enthusiasm for unilateral intervention or regime change. They are alarmed at its faith-based policies and unhappy with its free-market fundamentalism. Not least, polls consistently show that Jews oppose the administration’s military policies in Iraq at a rate that surpasses nearly any other identifiable bloc in the electorate.

And so Cheney came to Aipac, not to deliver the expected message of solidarity and good cheer, but to administer a spanking. Friends owe it to friends, he said. You must support us in Iraq, he said, or else.

Or else what?

Well, let’s start with the most pressing threat now facing Israel: the Islamic Republic of Iran and its nuclear ambitions. “It is simply not consistent,” Cheney said, “for anyone to demand aggressive action against the menace posed by the Iranian regime while, at the same time, acquiescing in a retreat from Iraq that would leave our worst enemies dramatically emboldened and Israel’s best friend, the United States, dangerously weakened.”

Cheney came to tear out that heart. We, the Republicans, are Israel’s true friends, he said. The Democrats, elected in a wave of popular revulsion at the war in Iraq, are Israel’s enemies. You, the representatives of the Jewish community, must choose between Israel and everything else you believe in.

No less alarming, Cheney was telling the Jewish community that the war in Iraq had been launched and fought in considerable measure for their benefit and Israel’s. That’s precisely the message that Israel’s worst enemies have been peddling for the past four years as America’s blood and treasure have been poured wastefully down the sinkhole of a misconceived and unwinnable war. It was a lie then, and it is a lie now. And now he seems to be casting Iran in the same light: as the Jews’ war.

Scary stuff, and an interesting analysis of the speech and its meaning. I enclose the full speech at the bottom of this post.

I think The Forward is over-reacting and mistaken in its analysis. I don’t see a veiled threat in Cheney’s words but rather a staking out of a position in an attempt to explain the Administration’s perspective on the current situation. He is lobbying the lobbyists knowing that they will be talking to both Democratic and Republican politicians. Making your case, even strongly, is a far cry from threatening the Jewish community or Israel. It is also not laying the war at their feet. Rather, Cheney is coming to them in the hope of generating support, or at the very least neutralizing opposition to the Administration’s views on Iraq.

It is perfectly legitimate for Cheney to do this, no less than for Clinton or Obama to attack the war at AIPAC’s conference. The truth is that there is a great deal of logic to the Administration’s current perspective on the war in Iraq. I’m not saying that I agree with the war because I don’t – I’ve always opposed it, believe it has caused the US and the West grievous harm, is causing the US severe diplomatic, military and financial harm, was embarked upon by oil guys because of their oil-centric geo-political understanding of the world, and has been managed extremely poorly by the Administration. I also don’t excuse the Administration for not taking responsibility for their failures in this war or leading us into it, issues that Cheney does not touch in his speech. However, we are at war and have to consider the future at this point and the logic of not backing off right now is fairly compelling. The vacuum left behind would be severe, and the implications for what the Administration calls a “War on Terror” but is mostly a war against internationally arrayed extreme Islamic elements, would be horrific and engender a much wider war.

Democrats know they were elected by an electorate that is angry about this war, and are trying to pass bills that will indicate to their voters that they’re “doing something” about it. The Dems also know there is no easy solution to this war and that any bill they throw out there will not be signed by Bush anyway. This makes their current posturing into a win-win for them – they get to look like they’ve “done something” in having actively opposed an unpopular war and tried to “end” it, but were unable to cause real change because of the nefarious Republicans and their President. In this scenario, the public continues to believe that Republicans are the war-mongerers and will hopefully maintain their political support until the next election. Solving the war will become far more complex for the next President, but right now the Dems are rightly focused on making sure that President is going to be a Democrat.

In the face of this onslaught, the Adminstration needs to minimize the number of fronts from which it is attacked, and attempting to neutralize AIPAC and perhaps other Jewish groups who might be influenced is helpful in this regard and perfectly legitimate. AIPAC, as The Forward correctly claims, has made a strenuous effort over its history to maintain bi-partisan support for Israel. Bi-partisan does not mean that since the Jewish community overwhelmingly votes Democratic, that now that the Dems are back in charge of the House AIPAC should lean in their direction. It means bi-partisanship. AIPAC would be wise, as would other Jewish groups, to maintain a bi-partisan posture with regard to this war. In this case, the best approach would be to remain quiet and let the politicians duke it out. The situation is too complex, with absolutely no easy or “correct” answers, for anybody to be able to claim that they know what needs to be done. Everybody, and I mean everybody, is guessing as to whether the steps they support will lead to a desirable outcome in Iraq. The Jewish community would be wise not to support or alienate anybody on an impossible question. Rather, the focus should be upon other relevant issues, including sanctions on Iran and other issues that affect the community.

In this vein, I believe Cheney came as a friend. He did remind the group that the Administration has been a friend and laid out his reasons for asking them for their support, but alternatively, at least that they won’t add pressure to end the war. When Cheney says,

“It is simply not consistent…for anyone to demand aggressive action against the menace posed by the Iranian regime while, at the same time, acquiescing in a retreat from Iraq that would leave our worst enemies dramatically emboldened and Israel’s best friend, the United States, dangerously weakened.”

…he is expressing a point of view; one that is logical and contains a great deal of truth. It is his right to come to AIPAC and present his case and even make it in stark terms. That is not the same as threatening anyone. In fact, asking for help while explaining the reasons why is precisely what AIPAC does in Washington and it is also what friends do when confronted with difficult circumstances.

Here is Cheney’s speech at the AIPAC conference of 2007:

VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY: Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. If Karl Rove finds out about this, he won’t let me out again. (Laughter.)

Well, thank you very much for that warm welcome. And David, let me thank you for the introduction. And let me thank the AIPAC board of directors and the members from all across America for the opportunity to be here today.

I have many friends in the hall, and I especially want to acknowledge Sallai Meridor, Israel’s ambassador to the U.S. — (applause) — and, of course, Tzipi Livni, Israel’s foreign minister. (Applause.)

I also want to recognize the many students who have come from across the country — even some, I’m told, from Wyoming. (Laughter.) Welcome to Washington. It’s great to see you all here. (Applause.)

We’re here today as citizens from different parts of the country, diverse backgrounds, many professions and various political affiliations. Yet we find unity and strength in the values of liberty and equality and our belief in democracy and the rule of law and in our devotion to the security of America’s friend, the state of Israel. (Applause.)

As members of AIPAC, you play a vital role in making the strategic and moral case for America’s friendship with Israel. I commend AIPAC for the fine work you do, not just at this annual event, but every day of the year. It’s good to be in your company, and I bring warm regards from the president of the United States, George W. Bush. (Applause.)

As most of you know, the president is traveling in Latin America this week, solidifying our friendships in that region and promoting an agenda of democracy, economic progress and security. He asked me to convey to this gathering his great appreciation for your efforts, his strong support for Israel and his firm commitment to peace in the Holy Land, built on a foundation of security, not surrender. (Applause.)

The president has been clear and forthright about his vision of two democratic states, Israel and Palestine, living side by side in peace. He remains committed to the achievement of that vision, nor has he compromised the basic principles he has stated from the very beginning. Peace requires a Palestinian government that recognizes Israel’s right to exist, accepts the validity of past agreements and renounces violence and terrorism totally and completely. (Applause.)

Progress in the cause of security and long-term peace never comes easily, yet the United States and Israel persevere in that cause. We understand, as Ariel Sharon put it, “the right and responsibility of every democracy, if it wishes to survive, to protect itself and its values. Doing so requires moral clarity, the courage of our convictions, a willingness to act when action is necessary and a refusal to submit to any form of intimidation, ever.” (Applause.)

These qualities are a credit to the American and the Israeli people, and these qualities are tested every day as we wage the war on terror. Israelis know this because rockets are shot at them, and three Israeli soldiers are now being held hostage, two by Hezbollah, one by Hamas, even as we meet here today. We are the prime targets of a terror movement that is global in nature and, yes, global in its ambitions. The leaders of this movement speak openly and specifically of building a totalitarian empire covering the Middle East, extending into Europe and reaching across to the islands of Indonesia, one that would impose a narrow, radical vision of Islam that rejects tolerance, suppresses dissent, brutalizes women and has one of its foremost objectives the destruction of Israel.

Their creed is extreme and backward-looking, yet their methods are modern and sophisticated. The terrorists use the Internet to spread propaganda, to find new recruits, and they’re employing every other tool of communication and finance to carry out their plans. It’s odd to think of ideologues out of the Dark Ages having a modern media strategy, but the fact is they do. They take videos of their attacks and put them up on the Internet to get them broadcast on television. They send messages and images by e-mail and tell their followers to spread the word. They wage war by stealth and murder, disregarding the rules of warfare and rejoicing in the death of the innocent. And not even the instinct of self-preservation is a restraint. The terrorists value death the same way you and I value life.

Civilized, decent societies will never fully understand the kind of mind-set that drives men to strap on bombs or fly airplanes into buildings, all for the purpose of killing unsuspecting men, women and children who they have never met and who have done them no wrong, but that is the very kind of blind, prideful hatred we’re up against. And their aim ultimately is to acquire the means to match that hatred and to use chemical, biological or nuclear weapons to impose their will by unspeakable violence or blackmail. An enemy that operates in the shadows and views the entire world as a battlefield is not one we can fight with strategies used in other wars.

An enemy with fantasies of martyrdom is not going to sit down at a table for negotiations, nor can we fight to a standoff — (applause) — nor can we fight to a standoff, hoping that some form of containment or deterrence will protect our people. The only option for our security and survival is to go on the offensive, facing the threat directly, patiently and systematically, until the enemy is destroyed. (Applause.)

The war on terror is more than a contest of arms and more than a test of will. It is also a battle of ideas. We know now to a certainty that when people across the Middle East are denied freedom, that is a direct strategic concern of all free nations. By taking the side of moderates, reformers and advocates for democracy, by providing an alternative to hateful ideologies, we improve the chances for a lasting peace, and we advance our own security interest.

In the last two years, we have seen hopeful changes as men and women showed their desire to live in freedom, and we have seen the enemy’s fierce reaction. In 2005 the people of Lebanon proclaimed the Cedar Revolution and drove out their Syrian occupiers. (Applause.) That same year, the people of Afghanistan elected a parliament. And in Iraq citizens voted in three national elections, turning out in the millions to defy killers and car bombers, and to elect a government that serves under the most progressive constitution in the Arab world.

In 2006 freedom’s enemies struck back with new tactics and greater fury. In Lebanon, Hezbollah terrorists, who are supported by Iran and Syria, attacked Israel, killing Israelis and sending rockets into civilian areas, and have since worked to undermine Lebanon’s democratically elected government.

Also, in 2006, Taliban and al Qaeda fighters in Afghanistan waged a new offensive against Afghan and NATO forces, and Iraq’s Sunni and Shi’a extremists engaged in an escalating sectarian struggle that continues to this day.

Our duty is to face all of these challenges with resolve, and we are doing so. In Afghanistan, where I visited just a few weeks ago, American and NATO forces are preparing a spring offensive against Taliban and al Qaeda fighters. In Iraq, our goal remains a democratic nation that upholds the rule of law, respects the rights of its people, provides them security and is an ally in the war on terror. But for this to happen, the elected government in Iraq needs the space and the time to work on reconciliation goals, and it’s hard to do that without basic security in Baghdad.

Our coalition is pursuing a new strategy that brings in reinforcements to help Iraqi forces secure the capital so that nation can move forward in the political process and turn toward reconciliation. A few weeks ago the new coalition commander, General Dave Petraeus, arrived in the Iraq theater. He sent a written message to his soldiers, and with your forbearance, I’d like to quote from it at length.

“The enemies of Iraq,” he said, “will shrink at no act, however barbaric. They will do all that they can to shake the confidence of the people and to convince the world that this effort is doomed. We must not underestimate them. Together with our Iraqi partners, we must defeat those who oppose the new Iraq. We cannot allow mass murderers to hold the initiative. We must strike them relentlessly. We and our Iraqi partners must set the terms of struggle — not our enemies — and together we must prevail,” end quote. (Applause.)

As we meet, ladies and gentlemen, General Petraeus and his troops are in the midst of some extremely tough, intense and dangerous work. The president and I have been briefed on their progress. These American soldiers represent the best that is in our country. They’re well-trained and professional. Their morale is high. They’re giving this mission everything they’ve got, and they are doing an absolutely brilliant job. (Applause.)

It’s always the case in wartime that the heaviest duties fall on the men and women of the military. The ones doing the fighting never lose their focus on their mission or on what is at stake in this war, and neither should the rest of us. Five-and-a-half years have passed since the attacks of September 11th, 2001 and the loss that morning of nearly 3,000 Americans inside the United States. As we get farther away from 9/11, I believe there is a temptation to forget the urgency of the task that came to us that day, and the comprehensive approach that’s required to protect this country against an enemy that moves and acts on multiple fronts.

In fact, five and a half years into the struggle, we find ourselves having to confront a series of myths about the war on terror, myths that are often repeated and deserve to be refuted.

The most common myth is that Iraq has nothing to do with the global war on terror. Opponents of our military action there have called Iraq a diversion from the real conflict, a distraction from the business of fighting and defeating bin Laden and the al Qaeda network. We hear this over and over again, not as an argument but as an assertion meant to close off argument.

Yet the critics conveniently disregard the words of bin Laden himself. The most serious issue today for the whole world, he has said, is this third world war that is raging in Iraq. He called it a war of destiny between infidelity and Islam. He said the whole world is watching this war and that it will end in victory and glory or misery and humiliation. And in words directed at the American people, bin Laden declares, quote, “The war is for you or for us to win. If we win it, it means your defeat and disgrace forever.”

This leader of al Qaeda has referred to Baghdad as the capital of the caliphate. He has also said, and I quote, “Success in Baghdad will be success for the United States. Failure in Iraq is the failure of the United States. Their defeat in Iraq will mean defeat in all their wars,” end quote.

Obviously, the terrorists have no illusion about the importance of the struggle in Iraq. They have not called it a distraction or a diversion from their war against the United States. They know it is the central front in that war, and it’s where they’ve chosen to make a stand. Our Marines are fighting al Qaeda terrorists today in Anbar province. U.S. and Iraqi forces recently killed al Qaeda terrorists in Baghdad who were responsible for numerous car bomb attacks. Iraq’s relevance to the war on terror simply could not be more plain.

Here at home that makes one thing above all clear. If you support the war on terror, then it only makes sense to support it where the terrorists are fighting us. (Applause.)

The second myth is the most transparent, and that is the notion that one can support the troops without giving them the tools and reinforcements needed to carry out their mission. Twisted logic is not exactly a new phenomenon in Washington, but last month it did reach new heights. At a hearing of the Senate Armed Services Committee, Senator John McCain put the following question to General Petraeus: “Suppose we send you over to your new job, only we tell you that you cannot have any additional troops.

Can you get your job done?” General Petraeus replied, “No, sir.” Yet within days of his confirmation by a unanimous vote in the Senate — I repeat, a unanimous vote of confidence in General Petraeus — a large group of senators tried to pass a resolution opposing the reinforcements he said were necessary. And of course, the House of Representatives did pass such a resolution. As President Bush said, this may be the first time in history that a Congress voted to send a new commander into battle and then voted to oppose the plan he said was necessary in winning that battle. It was not a proud episode in the history of the United States Congress.

The resolution that passed was not binding, only a statement of feelings. Yet other threats have been made that would hamper the war effort and interfere with the operational authority of the president and with our military commanders. These, too, are counterproductive and send exactly the wrong message. When members of Congress pursue an antiwar strategy that’s been called “Slow-Bleed,” they’re not supporting the troops; they are undermining them. And when members of Congress speak not of victory but of time limits — (applause) — when members speak not of victory but of time limits, deadlines or other arbitrary measures, they’re telling the enemy simply to watch the clock and wait us out. (Applause.)

Congress does of course play a critical role in the defense of the nation and the conduct of a war. That role is defined and limited by the Constitution. After all, the military answers to one commander in chief in the White House, not 535 commanders in chief on Capitol Hill. (Applause.)

Congress does have the purse strings, and very soon both houses will have to vote on a piece of legislation that is binding, a bill to provide emergency funding for the troops. And I sincerely hope the discussion this time will be about winning in Iraq. (Applause.)

Anyone can say they support the troops, and we should take them at their word, but the proof will come when it’s time to provide the money. We expect the House and Senate to meet the needs of our military and the generals leading the troops in battle on time and in full measure.

There is a third myth about the war on terror, and this one is also the most dangerous. Some apparently believe that getting out of Iraq before the job is done will actually strengthen America’s hand in the fight against terrorists. This myth is dangerous because it represents a full validation of the al Qaeda strategy. The terrorists don’t expect to beat us in a stand-up fight. They never have. They’re not likely to try. The only way they can win is if we lose our nerve and abandon our mission, and the terrorists do believe that they can force that outcome. Time after time, they have predicted that the American people do not have the stomach for a long-term fight. They cite the cases of Beirut in the 1980s and Somalia in the ’90s. These examples, they believe, show that we are weak and decadent, and that if we’re hit hard enough, we’ll pack it in and retreat.

The result would even greater danger to the United States, because if the terrorists conclude that attacks will change the behavior of a nation, they will attack that nation again and again. (Applause.)

Believing they can break our will, they will become more audacious in their tactics, ever more determined to strike and kill our citizens, ever more bold in their ambitions of conquest and empire.

And that leads me to the fourth and the cruelest myth of all. That is the false hope that we can abandon the effort in Iraq without serious consequences to the broader Middle East.

I stand here today as a strong supporter of Israel, and Israel has never had a better friend in the White House than George Bush. (Cheers, applause.)

Friends owe it to friends to be as candid as possible, so let me say that a precipitous American withdrawal from Iraq would be a disaster for the United States and the entire Middle East. It’s not hard to imagine what could occur if our coalition withdrew before Iraqis could defend themselves.

Moderates would be crushed. Shi’ite extremists, backed by Iran, could be in an all-out war with Sunni extremists, led by al Qaeda and remnants of the old Saddam regime. As this battle unfolded, Sunni governments might feel compelled to back Sunni extremists in order to counter growing Iranian influence, widening the conflict into a regional war. If Sunni extremists prevailed, al Qaeda and its allies would recreate the safe haven they lost in Afghanistan, except now with the oil wealth to pursue weapons of mass destruction and underwrite their terrorist designs, including their pledge to destroy Israel. If Iran’s allies prevailed, the regime in Tehran’s own designs for the Middle East would be advanced and the threat to our friends in the region would only be magnified.

My friends, it is simply not consistent for anyone to demand aggressive action against the menace posed by the Iranian regime while at the same time acquiescing in a retreat from Iraq that would leave our worst enemies dramatically emboldened, and Israel’s best friend, the United States, dangerously weakened. (Applause.)

We must consider as well just what a precipitous withdrawal would mean to our other efforts in the war on terror and to our interests in the broader Middle East. Having tasted victory in Iraq, jihadists would look abroad for new missions. Many would head for Afghanistan to fight alongside the Taliban. Others would set out for capitals across the Middle East, spreading more discord as they eliminate dissenters and work to undermine moderate governments.

Still others would find their targets and victims in other countries on other continents.

What would it say to the world if we left high and dry those millions of people who have counted on the United States to keep its commitment? And what would it say to leaders like President Karzai and President Musharraf, who risk their lives every day as fearless allies in the war on terror.

Commentators enjoy pointing out mistakes through the perceptive power of hindsight. But the biggest mistake of all can be seen in advance — a sudden withdrawal of our coalition would dissipate much of the effort that’s gone into fighting the global war on terror and result in chaos and mounting danger. And for the sake of our own security, we will not stand by and let it happen. (Applause.)

Five-and-a-half years ago, the president told the Congress and the country that we had entered a new kind of war, one that would require patience and resolve and that would influence the policies of this government far into the future. The fact that we have succeeded in stopping another attack on our homeland does not mean our country won’t be hit in the future, but the record is testimony not to good luck, but to urgent, competent action by a lot of very skilled men and women and to a series of tough decisions by a president who never forgets his first job is to protect the people of this country. (Applause.)

It would be easier no doubt to avoid controversy by following snapshot polls or catering to elite opinion or seeking political refuge and comfortable myths. But President Bush understands, as Ronald Reagan did, that if history teaches anything it teaches self- delusion in the face of unpleasant facts is falling. Either we are serious about fighting the war on terror or we are not. Either we persevere despite difficulty or we turn our backs on our friends, our commitments and our ideals.

I for one have never had more confidence in the outcome, because America is the kind of country that fights for freedom and because at this very hour, our soldiers are engaging the enemy on the field of battle. (Applause.)

One of the great examples of leadership in our world is that of Ariel Sharon, a man of courage and a man of peace who remains in our thoughts. (Applause.) In his last speech at the United Nations, Prime Minister Sharon said his great passion in life was manual labor, sowing and harvesting the pastures, the flock and the cattle. If the circumstances had not demanded it, he said, he would not have become a soldier but rather a farmer, an agriculturalist. But life had other plans for this Israeli patriot, and did his duty until the very ending of his strength.

Ladies and gentlemen, the circumstances that have demanded much of this great nation — but we are more than equal to the test. America is a good and an honorable country. (Applause.) We serve a cause that is right and a cause that gives hope to the oppressed in every corner of this Earth. We are defended by some of the bravest citizens this nation has ever produced. We’re in a war that was begun on the enemy’s terms. We’re fighting that war on our own terms, and we will prevail. (Applause.)

Thank you all very much. (Applause.)

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  • Its amazing how they turned the war chant over and over again into their own terms. First it was to depose a global menace, Sadaam. Then it was the fight to establish democracy. And now we have them falling back on the war on terror.

    There are now WARS not one war. There are corporate interests thrust into the forefront.

    To hear that Cheney say “We serve a cause that is right and a cause that gives hope…”
    Yes this guy is a crooked as they come. He serves himself, his interests, his empire.

    Its sickening really. A big AIPAC circle jerk. Pardon my french, but thats what it sounds like.

  • Maybe I’m wrong, but was it the Republicans that allow CAIR a public forum in the Capitol? Is it the Republicans that recently shared the stage with Farrakhan in Detroit, a few weeks before he reminded Al Jazeera how evil the Joos were? And is it the Republicans that consistently march at “peace” rallies with signs that reek of anti-semitism? Hmmm.

    Look, I’m no Republican. Albeit I’m an American Russian-Jew and we happen to fall on the mostly conservative side and not the looter side (and for damned good reason), but I would slit my wrists before joining the Democratic party or their perspective. Whether you agree with the war in Iraq or not, I don’t see anything better for us Jews in the world, than Shiites and Sunnis slaughtering each other in their own backyard. Call me cynical, but Keith Ellison is still not a Republican.

  • I’m 100% with Rabbi Yonah on this one. Cheney has always served his own self interests. He did it when selling dangerous dual use technology to Iraq & Iran while at Halliburton, he’s doing it to this day. And amazingly Still making money off of the wars too. These Bush clowns have done more to undermine the strategic position of Israel than almost anyone, including Hamas. It’s really disgusting their various veiled threats and the full corrupt extent & flavor of their arrogant bully tactics. It’s true that American Jews are overwhelmingly Democratic. But a significant portion of the community supplies the Repug’s with plenty of ready campaign cash. It’s those folks that Cheney is speaking to and now blithely threatening. Just damn amazing the depths to which this government has sunk. No morals. No principles, conservative or otherwise. They are corrupt as Leninists, as corrupt as any regal continental despot that our government was set up explicitly to prevent. A really sad spectacle here guys . Cheers, ‘VJ’

  • Yonah is way off base here.

    Cheney has been a good friend to Israel and I challenge anyone to name a Democrat who has been as good to Israel as him. He said nothing wrong in his address to the Lobbyists of AIPAC.

    Yes, the Wars are a mess and too many American lives have been lost. We all know how I personally suffered when my young Jewish lover was deployed oversees and I have yet to replace him. (P.S. He’s back on American soil and dating a lovely Jewish girl who is more age-appropriate for him, but I digress…)

    Democrats have just as many Corporate alliances as Republicans. “Corporate Interests” allowed to thrive under Republican-style Capitalism are what have brought us the scientific and medical advances we enjoy in this country. The taxes paid (ha ha ha!) by the corner kosher market in the shtetl that charges $4.00 a gallon for milk or the little tznius clothing boutique that charges $100.00 for a skirt you can find at Target for $19.99 are not what have lead to the standard of living we enjoy in the U.S.

    I’m the first on to say let the Arabs kill each other, but until we have alternative fuel options, we need to maintain some sort of relationship with oil producing countries. Trying to help establish some sort of workable government in the Middle East was not a bad idea in theory. Until every Democrat vows to agree to gas rationing and to not use any petro based products, I suggest they not criticize attempts to deal with the devils who control its production. I personally do not want to go back to the gas-lines I remember from the 70’s when the great friend to the Jews (HA!)and Democrat Jimmy Carter was in Office.

    Being Jewish does not obligate a person to be a Democrat so as to seem “compassionate”. Much of the economic theory described in the Torah is a lot closer to “trickle-down” than socialism

  • “unhappy with its free-market fundamentalism.”

    Oh, man, I love it when the Forward talks like me! 🙂

    TM, you wrote,

    “However, we are at war and have to consider the future at this point and the logic of not backing off right now is fairly compelling.”

    Well, only if we have a viable plan.

  • Agreed. I don’t think saying that is in conflict with what I say above. The Democrats don’t have a viable plan either, so there is no reason to give them preference here. I don’t disagree with punishing Republicans or the Administration for their failures, but the Democrats are playing politics with their calls – and now a bill – for withdrawal. Withdrawing to leave a vacuum would be a terrible thing to do. Our government has put us in the difficult situation of having only bad options, but withdrawing has to be the worst option and the Democrats not only know this, but are now trying to gain political capital by proposing this impossible outcome. The Administration plays games with us by utilizing the memory of 9/11 and the idea of a War on Terror to gain support for this war while the Dems, now in control of the House, cynically use the impossible idea of withdrawal to gain support. Two sides of the same coin, and neither worthy of Jewish advocacy or support. Better to keep out of it unless we have a great plan which we can propose.

  • My disdain for Cheney is not an endorsement for any Democrats, don’t worry Chutzpah.

    As far as Cheney being a friend of Israel: he has done more to cement US-Arab relations than any president. he enjoys the company and friendship of the sheiks from the Arabian peninsula, the same ones that have helped bankroll the PLO, and Fatah.

    His lousy advice and planning cost American valuable lives and have undermined Israeli security.

    He sits idle while countries that endanger Israel arm themselves with sophisticated weaponry.

    His Haliburton company is moving to Dubai – a dictatorship, as opposed to Israel, a democracy. Must I go on?

    Cheney is good for Israel in the miscalculations of political utilitarians.

  • Ok – I will certainly look into those allegations further and reconsider.

    However, I don’t think friendship with Sheiks is all that bad considering our need for oil. As I learned from my divorce, sometimes you get more with honey than with vinegar.

    As for building in Dubai, it seems that they are offering many attractive corporate incentives which Israel is not. If my sister & mother owned an office supply company and I needed large amounts of supplies for my office, I would still buy from Office Depot if they gave me a better price. That’s Capitalism. The Jews in the shtetl here continue to buy bad produce from the local kosher produce guy at much more than the Supermarket price for the sake of the mitzvah of supporting his family, guess I’m not that nice.

  • From the first few paragraphs I was expecting your commentary to be a left-wing-nut hack job, which thankfully failed to materialize. Instead I was treated to actual, thoughtful analysis. Something rare these days, especially in the blogosphere. Thank you. Chazak u’baruch!

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