Orna Hollander, the executive director of the Center for Israel Activism, told The Jerusalem Post that “York students wearing yarmulkas still can’t even walk around without being harassed.”

From Jerusalem Post.

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  • Glad I left. Thank you for taking in my grandparents who were refugees but now it’s time for the Jews to say goodbye.

  • Oh please, it’s not as bad as that. Definitely nowhere near the mainstream antisemitism I witnessed in the UK this past January. A funny conversation I recently overheard at McGill between two trendy, white kids – boy: “You going to the protest tonight?”, enthusiastic girl : “Yeah!!! For sure!!!”, pause, confused girl, “Um what are we protesting again?”…
    It’s that retarded.

  • Tiff,

    It IS that bad. Are you in Canada right now? Because I am. I go to university. This week was Israel Apartheid week on campus, which was essentially anti-Jew week on campus. I’m not even Jewish, I’m a shiksa. But it was horrible!

    Those videos were interesting. I’m glad there’s a movement for peace, but I found the second video extremely hypocritical. What was with the 3 second inclusion of a white man yelling at a person named “Ahmed” be respectful? Is that trying to say that all Palestinian students are not being respectful, or all Muslim students aren’t being respectful. If you want to fight hate, you can use racial profiling in your propaganda.

  • And where do you think England was just several years ago?

    Canada has changed and it is undeniable that its immigration policy that basically allowed entire Arab villages to move to Toronto and other cities in Canada is the reason you are seeing the numbers and the types of protests you’re seeing. Concordia and York are the tip of the iceberg and you will only see this type of protest increase. That period of about 40-50 years when Jews actually felt comfortable and safe in Canada is reaching its conclusion.

    I hate to say it, but Canada will resemble the nasty parts of Europe in a few more years and you will be covering up your Jewishness the same way the Jews in England have to now. What a shame.

  • I grew up in Toronto, I’ve lived there for over 20 years, and now I’m in the states. All I can say is, Toronto, my favorite city, and a beautiful city it is, in the last 5 years has deteriorated and become filled with Arab and Persian immigrant garbage.

    I also went to York University, and when I left it was just starting to get bad. All these Arab teenagers who were only in Canada for 1-3 years, fresh off the boat, causing all these “Israel Apartheid” protest nonsense you would see at Vari Hall. If Canada doesn’t step up and do something about this, I am changing my citizenship to American.

  • I would also like to say that I used to always stand up for Canada and defend Canada when Americans and citizens of other nations insult our system. I no longer defend Canada, because Canada doesn’t defend my people.

  • Hey, I go to the University of Toronto, the founding school of Israel Apartheid Week. Things were actually extremely! quiet, especially by UofT standards. There was a rift between OPIRG (the group that helps sponsor and organize the week) and UofT, blaming Hillel for trying to shut down one of its events a few weeks ago, but that’s about it.

    Although my campus was quiet, that doesn’t mean the racism isn’t there. If you keep an eye out for these things, I think you could cut the tension with a knife, but most students here are very apathetic and really annoyed by the politics and extremism.

  • In regards to the video, I agree that they are very one-sided. The Ahmed clip kind of highlights the fact that the issue seems to be Jews versus Arabs on campus, but the video does show typical behaviour of anti-Israel/pro-Palestinian activists at events and he just so happens to be named Ahmed. Not that I want to defend the video or his behaviour.

    One of my biggest questions about anti-Israel/pro-Palestinian activists is that I am not sure which they are. Does pro-Palestinian mean anti-Israel? The identity seems to be synonymous but being pro one thing doesn’t mean it’s also anti something else.

  • Torontorian, you sound like a bigot.

    I admire the Jews I met on my campus last week. In the midst of a Apartheid rally, when dozens of white, black and Arab students were holding up “Boycott Israel” signs, there were 4 Jewish students at a JSA booth, in the same lobby, holding their ground. They were not shouting or insulting the protesting in anyway. Instead, they were there to distribute positive information about Israel. They had materials about the agriculture, and the industry and other positive aspects of Israel.

    I asked them what they were doing in response to the Apartheid week. They all said nothing. They said they respect the other students, and respect their desire to protest. They are not going to sink to their level and protest back. Instead, they are going to spread positivity.

    Two of them also explained that they had many Palestinian and Arab friends. Just as they don’t want all Jews to be colored with the same stroke, they don’t want to stereotype or racially profile their friends.

    I asked if they were scared about events like this fostering anti-semiticism on campus. They all said immediately, “We’re terrified.”

  • I sound like a bigot? Why because I generalize the whole race. News flash, if a majority of a race acts a certain behavior, its safe to generalize. I don’t care if there are exceptions, everything has an exception. Please take your political correctness, and shove it.


  • The funny part is, you have the freedom and opportunity to question other jews on this website. Why don’t you go look at the arab websites, I can give you a handful of them, and you won’t see arabs arguing with each other. They all live for one notion, one idea, they do not question each other, and their culture and religion goes against questioning. The ones who do question are called heretics and outcasted from society and even beheaded (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQh9T3bZ6BI).

    So before you go around calling other viewers bigots, at least understand that you have the freedom to do that here, because if this was an arab website, you would have probably been banned and outcasted along time ago. Judaism encourages questioning, Islam and many other religions do not.

  • Modern girl, etc: I have lived in Canada my entire life and am currently attending University in Montreal. We had similar ugly scenes at McGill, talk of banning collaborations with Israeli institutions (which went to vote and did not fly), etc. OVERALL though, my university remains an open-minded place to study. That’s all I was trying to say. I still tell people I’m Jewish. The people who have a problem with that are in the vast minority and I wouldn’t want to be friends with them anyways…

  • I find middle’s comments very interesting. The era when people didn’t disagree with Jews is gone, woe be us. If fifteen people out of a rally of fifty or a hundred say nasty things, suddenly the totality of Canada isn’t a nice place to live.

    What pampering.

  • No Kung Fu, don’t minimize the videos I’ve presented here, in a post just several days ago, the annual Israel apartheid week all across Canada, the labor union that is boycotting Israel, and events at Concordia a few years ago.

    The Jewish population in Canada has become a small minority group (ranked 26th or 27th in the 2006 census). You see it in these videos where the smaller group by far is the Jewish students. On the other hand, the Arab and Muslim populations have grown exponentially and as they grow, so do their numbers at the universities. Many of them are engaged in attacking Israel or those who support it, as we saw in Concordia a couple of years ago and as we saw this year at York University.

    It’s wishful thinking to expect that it won’t become difficult for the Jewish community. If you look at France, England, Sweden and other countries where life for Jews has become far more challenging in recent years, you can see that where you have sizable immigrant populations of Muslims and Arabs, you have Jews experiencing a tough time on many fronts. From everything I’ve read, it looks like the same demographic imbalance is beginning to appear in Toronto.

  • Tiff, if all you can say to defend yourself is “shut up”, you’ve already lost the argument.

    themiddle, I am proud that there are still Jews like you. Who are not fooled by arabic rhetoric and lies. I grew up with arabs, and I know how they do business, I know how they treat their own, they’re even allowed to lie to their children and wives, why not to non-Muslims? You are exactly spot, as to the situation getting worse. In the Qu’uran it says that arabs must accept peace only when they are in the weaker position, and that they must do anything possible to gain power (including lying). Once they have numbers it is their duty to convert the nation into a Shaaria state, by any means necessary.

    If you think I was exaggerating about arabs lying all the time, see this article about why lie-detectors don’t work on them (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/687950/posts).

    All I have to say now is, to all the Canadian Jews who sympathize with them, and give equal consideration, when the situation gets bad and you feel like you have to run away from Canada, please do not go to Israel, because are a traitors.

    Nothing angers me more than a jew who talks against jews, and then later on seeks refuge when the situation changes.

  • Torontonian, we don’t agree in the way we view Arabs and Muslims. I see them as a problem because of their numbers and growing political clout in certain countries. I see their enmity towards Israel as the key problem here and I feel comfortable making those generalizations.

    I don’t feel comfortable seeing them all as fighters for Sha’aria, though some definitely are. I also don’t know who lies and who doesn’t but won’t agree to make that generalization.

    Let’s stick to the political issue and not slide into hatred of a group.

  • You’ve said that you won’t make some generalizations, but are clearly willing to make other generalizations. How are some generalizations acceptable true and how some aren’t? How can you prove which one is and which one isn’t? Why are you agreeing to one and not the other?

    You haven’t said why. You don’t feel comfortable seeing them as Sha’aria because anything negative is labeled as “hate”, but that doesn’t mean it’s not true. I guess the difference is some agree to make some generalizations because it’s politically correct and there are self-interests bonded to their statements (like the fear of losing money from losing website traffic due to those statements).

    For example, statistics and demographics are socially acceptable generalizations because they are in form of numbers and thus bare some truth, but they are no different than other generalizations. Unless you express why you accept some generalizations and not others, I will assume your reasons are purely motivated by website revenue.

  • There is a difference between saying that polls show that a large percentage of Canadian Muslims view Israel very negatively and saying something like “Arabs are liars.”

    You’re a smart guy, I’m sure you can tell the difference.

  • Middle, ck: if someone came on this site spouting similar generalizations about Jews as Torontonian has been making about Arabs, what would the response be? banish the guy! and just to clarify where I stand, in case themiddle decides to lump me into some ultra-liberal bleeding hearts category…I am insanely pro-Israel and I agree that it’s becoming more and more trendy and acceptable to openly hate Jews. And whatever, go Canada!

  • Tiff, you ultra-liberal bleeding heart, we’re in agreement about Torontonian. However, we have let antisemites come into discussions and have their say on Jewlicious, sometimes in long and numerous comments. There is a logic to it in that we at least let them have a say, usually debate it for a while because we are not afraid of what they have to say. When they cross a line – and it’s a fine line – to propaganda or using us as a platform to promote their hatred, that’s when I act. Torontonian has not even come close to what we’ve permitted others to publish here about Jews or Israelis.

  • I guess we draw our lines at different places. My tolerance for talk I find hugely stupid is low (see my reaction to Alex Trebek’s banter on Jeopardy, I wanna kill that smug Canadian bastard!)….ho hum…

  • In my defense, I never said all arabs are liars, I said it is in their culture and religion to lie, there is a difference. The difference being that, Arabs born and raised in the middle east or isolated middle eastern communities in the west have that trait. However, Arabs who are a part of the US melting pot and have been immersed in US social and anthropological value would attach guilt and shame to lying, whereas the others wouldn’t. You should know, since once of your website writers works for the news source I referenced earlier (freerepublic).

    Quote: “Palestinians have no compunction about telling lies and see truth as irrelevant, the former Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak has claimed in an interview. “They are products of a culture in which to tell a lie… creates no dissonance,” Mr Barak says. “They don’t suffer from the problem of telling lies that exists in Judaeo-Christian culture.””

    Tiffany and themiddle, you are quidck to make judgments and assumptions without evaluating detail or evidence, this is a major flaw in your rationalization that would probably get noticed right away in any debate/court.

    However Tiffany, not only are you quick to make judgments and assumptions, but you also don’t provide an argument, neither evidence, and you resort to personal insults which is by far the worst form of disagreement. In fact, it is this kind of mentality that dumbs down society. I would rather talk to an Arab neo-nazi that has the worst hatred values but can make a somewhat structured argument with a form of evidence, than someone who is quick to disregard ideas and take everything personal.

    I’m sure if I was born in the Middle East to some Arab country as a Muslim, and raised on Muslim values, I would also have hatred for Jews. You see these arguments are irrelevant because they’re based on identity, not objectivity and Tiff, the only thing worse than you is an Arab neo-nazi that can’t form an argument and makes personal insults.

  • Not to mention, Canada isn’t as patriotic as the US. Americans are very patriotic and are proud of their identity hence “Italian American”, “African American”, “Chinese American”. Canadians on the other hand are the total opposite, they do not care for politics as much as Americans do, and they don’t attach “Canadian” to their identity. Having said that, there is a greater chance for Arabs not to integrate in to the Judeo-Christian North American society, thus having more hate for Jews. Which is why you see hate raising in Europe first, and now in Canada, and I would like to hope that the strong American social “melting pot” culture, prevents it from happening in the US.

  • What about non-Arabs and non-Muslims that are born in the Middle East? “Arabic” is not a religion BTW, and the Quran disapproves of dishonesty pretty strongly compared to the “thou shall not bear false witness”, which refers to behaviour during a trial in court. I wasn’t aware any of us contributed to freerepublic.

  • The French, the British and the Dutch are extremely patriotic. A lack of publicly displayed patriotism can therefore not convicingly explain the effects of failed integration.

  • Third,

    If you think I “hate” Arabs due to my statements. Asians have no sense of guilt, just like Arabs don’t have a sense of lying. Asians only have a sense of shame, which is brought on “ONLY” when they are caught in their bad actions. However if they are never caught they never feel guilty, whereas anyone from a Judeo-Christian culture would (except for institutional psychopaths). (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guilt#Cultural_views)

    “Traditional Japanese society, Korea society and Ancient Greek society are sometimes said to be “shame-based” rather than “guilt-based”, in that the social consequences of “getting caught” are seen as more important than the individual feelings or experiences of the agent.”

    So like I said in my first comment in this article. Jews tend to think everyone is like them, and assume that people feel and think the same way. This is far from the truth, and the more “politically correct” you are, the worse it is.

    In my opinion, anyone who doesn’t feel guilt is less human than I am, which includes Asians and Arabs. Feel free to call me a bigot, hater, or whatever it is you want.

  • Froylein,

    The first 3/4’s of the Qu’uran has the same rules and ethics as any of the other religions. What I am assuming you don’t know is that the way it is taught and structured is that the following pages overwrite the previous ones. So by the time you get to the “Chapter of the Sword” which is one of the last chapters in the Qu’uran, you have to ignore what you read previous to that, or at least give higher priority to the “Chapter of the Sword”. Which gives you detailed instructions on how to behead a Jew and a Christian, and which one to do first (first Saturday then Sunday). Regardless, the hatred is embodied in the community because they are more observant than anyone other religion.

  • Did you also read that on Wikipedia?

    One of my old professor happened to be a leading researcher on the editorial history of the Quran and the life of Mohammed, and I know from this outstandingly educated man that all sures (chapters) in the Quran are valid and the first, longer, ones are considered the more important ones. Fear you not, an observant Muslim should at the very least be conflicted about your assertion as the Quran states that all book religions must be respected.

    My Orthodox Jewish friends would object to the notion they were less observant than average Muslims.

  • I wonder how many Arab synthesizes here have looked at the Qu’uran? The reason the Qu’uran goes from peaceful to violent is because Mohammed was a peaceful human being when was raised in Mecca, but by the time he arrived in Medina, he was massacring Jews and training mercenaries. Before talking about a subject, a little research may help.

  • Froylein,

    For your information, Wikipedia is statistically the most credible encyclopedia existing to date since it is constantly corrected and updated by the half second. You act like you are completely oblivious to their violent religious education. Where do you think they learn to behead? Where do you think they get these ideas? You think they just appear out of thin air? It is all religious, just like American ethics derive mainly from the bible. Have you seen this article? http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/02/16/buffalo.beheading/

  • Who said I was a “proper researcher”? I assure you, my comment thus far hold far more weight than yours or anyone else who has commented they aren’t even giving any evidence, any sources, or any facts.

    If that’s all you can say as your defense, you’re no different than Tiff.

  • Also, you seem to have not understood my point, or perhaps I was not specific enough. I didn’t mean that religious Arabs are more observant than Orthodox/Religious Jews. I meant that Arabs are far more observant than Jews in the context that the percentage of religious Arabs compared to religious Jews is far more higher.

  • For your information, anybody with internet accesss can edit Wiki entries. Anybody also includes a large share of clueless people; actual specialists prefer to publish scientific books or articles in scientific magazines, which, in general, are reviewed by at least one more reputable researcher on the matter and the editor of the publication. There’s a reason why an increasing number of colleges and universities in the US have established policies to reject or fail papers that use Wikipedia as a source. It’s a toy, not a tool.

    I’m aware that Islam justifies forceful missionary work and its set of laws, sharia, does include verdicts that appear bewildering to Westerners, but I take it you haven’t read the Torah either, otherwise you’d know that many kind of punishment Judaism knows for various kinds of transgressions would be considered over-the-top and too violent by today’s Western standards.

    I read about that man. Today, we celebrated a holiday that allegedly commemorates the death of tens of thousands innocents at the hands of Jews (no worries, it’s just a story). Judaism even knows a king that had another man sent to his certain death to get ahold of that man’s wife. How does that fare with you?

  • I could start enumerating a long range of books on Islam and comparative religious and Middle Eastern political studies, but would that make you access a library? Your point-of-view has obviously been soldified by sources that I’d call dubious to say the very least. In addition, your condescending allegations do not do your alleged civility in discourse justice. Thus, you are not different from a large deal of haters we’ve seen on here, and I find your ill-informed xenophobia rather annoying.

    Middle shall fare with you as he pleases.

  • Why don’t you go ahead and try to edit a Wikipedia entry and see what happens? Within seconds 1) the Wiki bot will send your changes to a moderator for moderation 2) If the moderator disapproves, your change is immediately reversed. Go ahead, try it for yourself.

    If you only knew how much traffic Wikipedia receives a minute. Look at all the changes in the last 10 seconds. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges

    There are people who watch every change and immediately fix errors.

    Second, Universities don’t reject Wikipedia because it’s a “toy”. The reason they do so is because referencing encyclopedia is not an acceptable University level source. Most books aren’t acceptable University level source either, let alone “Magazines”, which is why most Universities and professors require you use Academic journals which are maintained by approved and known databases or libraries. So your argument holds no relevance to the credibility of Wikipedia.

    I have read the Torah, and I am well familiar with Moses laws such as stoning a belligerent child. The owning of slaves, and so forth. However, do you see any common modern day Jews practicing these laws? That’s the difference between Judaism and Islam, once is adjusted for 2009, the other for 150AD. Ask Wafa Sultan.

  • You are no different than the label happy, over stimulated, short attention span, late generation who thinks they are educated because they went through what they call a three to four year university program.

  • Wiki is rejected because it’s not a proper research tool, it’s as simple as that. It does in no way compare to, for instance, the Encyclopaedia Britannica (which also updates its entries daily; those updates are available to subscribers, owners of the print version or users of the DVD version), but they actually have got experts working on their entries. There are scientific magazines as well as there are scientific journals; each denotes a different kind of publication.

    I’ve seen observant Jews (as you were arguing from / against the angle of observant Muslims as opposed to non-observant, Westernized ones) use violence against brethren that they believed to have violated Jewish laws. Islam, BTW, started in 622 CE. If you already use Wiki as a source of information, you should at the very least scroll down the pages to get the gist of the entries. In 150 AD [raher 150 CE, as we prefer to say on here], the Middle East as well as most parts of inhabited Europe were under Roman occupation.

    Beati pauperes spiritu..

  • At least I don’t confuse arbitrary assumptions with scientifically traceable and also challengeable knowledge.

    An opinion does not a sage make.

  • If I referenced encycolpedia Britannica in my undergraduate or my masters degree program, I would have failed. My program required strictly referencing Scholars, not anything else. Also, just because one set of institutions forbids something, it doesn’t mean its not credible. The FBI and the RCMP believe that tasers don’t cause homicide, instead it is caused by “excited delerium”, which is false, does that make what they say correct? My point is you’re committing a logical fallacy by appealing to authority, whether it is universities, or the government. So your premise is inherently false until you can provide some solid evidence.

    Yes Islam did start in the 600’s, but according to anthropologists their cultural traits even precede Zoroastrianism.

    Got any other arguments I can debunk?

  • Don’t even get me started about what is scientifically “traceable” or “challengeable knowledge”. You speak as everything you say is an absolute truth. There is no such thing as absolute truth, even science in itself is somewhat broken. If it wasn’t we would have had universal string theory by now. Why don’t you read a Murray Gelman book?

  • I’m sorry, you haven’t convinced me of anything. Fyi, when Barak said that you can’t trust the Arabs because they are liars, it was one of the stupidest things he could have ever said, if only because he’s a former PM and speaks with the authority of one.

    I still don’t understand how a culture teaches all of its members to lie and I don’t see how making that statement is different than saying all Jews have a nose for business.

  • It’s funny how they let people that cannot even spell enrol at colleges. Apparently you haven’t got the slightest clue whatsoever as to who writes encyclopaedia entries.

    I’m supposed to accept thinly veiled bias, unequivocally false assertions on the matter in question and obviously one-sided websites as authoritative, but may not explain why an open source web 2.0 reference site does not compare to the world’s leading and most reputable encyclopaedia that has been compiled by not only editors but experts of standing?

    How much more ridiculous can you possibly get?

    Do you even know the core values of Islam, even of an idealized, true-to-the-book version?

    If anything, you’ve proved your xenophobia.

  • Sorry for not using spell check on a “Jewlicious” comment section. Again, another logical facility, attacking the speaker rather than the idea. The lowest of all forms of disagreement (ranked LF0 out of 10). Congratulations, you’ve reached a new low. Considering English is my second language, I write far better than the average domestically raised American.

    Seems like your last comment doesn’t have any arguments in it, just questions and opinions. I’ve taken you’ve forfeited.

    Good luck in life, especially when the Arabs come after you for being a Jew. I hope you defend them like you did today. I’m sure they’ll care before they force you to convert or face death.

    I don’t fear foreigners or strangers, I don’t fear Arabs. So there’s no phobia there, just a partial xeno.

  • English is my third language, and proper spelling remains a matter of politeness. Since you felt free to belittle an entire ethnicity based on its geographical background, I felt my mentioning of your orthography was rather on point. And since you still don’t get that ethnicity and religious adherence are two different matters and you generously conflate the two as it fits your limited understanding of the world, trying to invoke uncalled for fear in others by introducing gross generalizations of decidedly racist quality, I dare say xenophobia is the apt expression to describe your attitude towards people of Middle Eastern origin (which, as it apparently has escaped your attention, includes the majority of Jews).

    I think we’ve given your racism enough airtime on here to unfold itself well enough for everybody to see.

  • Actually, to be exact. I belittled an entire ethnicity based on its religion, not it’s geographical background. Maybe I can’t write, but you sure can’t read.

    Xenophobia is the “fear” of strangers. So what am I? A hater or someone who fears? What if you only hate one stranger, but not the rest are you still xenophobic?

    I am of Middle Eastern origin myself, so by your terms I hate my own people?

    I’m sorry but you’re so full of bullshit, I am starting to laugh here. This went from a serious thread to pure meaningless entertainment.

    Everyone else here? You mean the target audience you have here who don’t realize this site is 70% advertisements, a swag store, and a festival with a 30% core product value based on a blog that you call “journalism”? Please. The fact that you commercialize Judaism, and are trying to sell “cool jew” bling necklaces (For a low price of $49! holiday special!) is an insult in itself to Judaism. I consider you and anyone else on here far from Jewish. Leave it to LA “jews” to materialize the religion, something totally against Judaism. This reminds me of Moses throwing the tablets at the “jews” who were worshiping idols. Go worship your cool jew necklaces and swag and your material life style.


  • Torontonian, you seem to have a very hard time analyzing information, so let me help you. This site generates little revenue overall. We do this for free. That means that we write for free, we debate with you for free and we accept your abuse for free.

    That’s pretty Jewlicious of us, don’t you think?

    Sure, some money is generated to feed the hamsters and permit one person to keep his lungs filled with unhealthy stuff but not much more.

    Actually, we are a group of writers from different backgrounds and places trying to express ourselves regarding the Jewish world. It’s not a professional exercise although sometimes our pieces are good enough to be published and sometimes they deserve to be thrown out with the garbage. It’s supposed to be a positive view of the Jewish world and of Israel although we also criticize elements of both.

    The reason you are angry at us is that we refuse to buy bigoted statements you made. You thought you’d have colleagues and instead you met opponents. That happens here when we get people from the farther reaches of the Right. We try to treat other groups the way that Jews would like to be treated. That is, treated with fairness and without prejudice. I don’t have many Arab friends and that’s because generally there is a serious divide between those Arabs I know and our views about the Middle East. However, I see their views as the problem, not some inherent flaws of character or nature as you’ve described.

    You may wish to revisit your comments above and replace the word Arab with the word Jew and see what happens. I don’t think you’re going to be proud.

    You are welcome to stay here or leave. If you stay, I ask that you tone down the rhetoric against particular groups.

  • Torontonian: I think we make about $300 a year from the sale of t-shirts. That doesn’t pay for three weeks of server time and bandwidth. Most of the people that attend our Festival pay $36. That doesn’t cover one day’s worth of their food, let alone facility rentals, speaker and program expenses etc. Most of our ads are for Jewish non-profit entities. All of us write for free because we’re passionate about whatever version of Judaism we associate with. If Jewlicious is a commercial enterprise, well then… we really suck at that despite the Jews proclivity for commercial activity. Torontonian, I suggest you take criticism in stride. We often disagree with each other and far more vociferously. So yeah, there you have it. I’m sure Moses would have far more important things to do than to throw tablets at the likes of us…

  • I said it is in their culture and religion to lie, there is a difference. The difference being that, Arabs born and raised in the middle east or isolated middle eastern communities in the west have that trait.

    So what is that if not a generalizing statement towards native Arabic people?

    Would that be innate or acquired dishonesty?