A superb and balanced documentary some years ago from the BBC (of all places) and PBS, The Fifty Years War: Israel and the Arabs, about Israel’s creation and the Arab-Israeli conflict since. It also contains some fascinating interviews with both Arabs and Israelis who were involved in the fighting, including at Deir Yassin.


Some information about Deir Yassin.

What happened because of Palestinian propaganda about Deir Yassin.

The creation of Israel.

Look up “50 years war Israel and the Arabs” on Youtube to see all the episodes.

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  • פייסבוק החדש: לא בלי צדק, אבל בכפייה
    אני לא מסכים עם גל מור שכותב היום בוויינט שלמרות שרוב היוזרים שונאים את העיצוב החדש של פייסבוק, זהו כנראה מהלך מוצלח מצד החברה. גל כותב שפחות משנה מה אנשים חושבים או כותבים, ולאיזה סקר דעת קהל בפייסבוק הם מצטרפים על מנת למחות על המהלך, מה שמשנה (מבחינת פייסבוק) זה הפעולות שלהם, כלומר המהלך שיוזרים עושים באתר, החל מהכניסה, דרך השיטוט ועד המעשים עצמם, כלומר כתיבה והעלאה של תכנים.
    אז אני לא מסכים. ואני לא מסכים מסיבה אחת: אנשים לא יפסיקו להשתמש בפייסבוק, אבל זה לא אומר שהם נהנים.

    גל כותב: “האם המשתמשים תמיד טועים? לא בהכרח. אך הנחת הייסוד בעיצוב ממשקים היא ×›×™ רובם תמיד יתנגדו לכך שיזיזו להם את הגבינה. ככל שהשינוי גדול יותר כך תגבר ההתנגדות ובשביל שינוי מינורי ולא מורגש – למה לטרוח בכלל? במבדקי שימושיות וניתוחי סטטיסטיקה לא מייחסים חשיבות למה שהמשתמשים אומרים אלא בוחנים את מעשיהם. ההגיון המנחה את פייסבוק הוא פשוט: התכנים של החברים מעניינים בהרבה מפעילויות שונות שביצעו באתר. זרם של עדכונים טריים הוא מעניין בהרבה מלקט אקראי של פעולות אוטומטיות בחלקן המחוללות על ידי ישומים שונים, כמו השלכות תרנגולים, מבחני טריוויה אוויליים ושלל קשקושים שהופיעו בדף העדכונים הקודם. על פי הצלחות העבר, אפשר להניח שבפייסבוק יודעים מה הם עושים. אם, כפי שחזיתי כאן בשבוע שעבר, הממשק החדש יביא לגידול באינטראקציה של הגולשים עם האתר, הביקורת תגווע במהרה. בינתיים, על פי Compete.com, נראה ×›×™ זמן השהייה של גולשים באתר לא פחת השבוע לעומת השבוע שעבר.”

    להסתכל רק על זמן ההישארות באתר הוא מהלך חסר מפני שכל שינוי בממשק דווקא מעלה את זמן ההישארות ולא מוריד אותו. היה הגיוני שפייסבוק לא ישנו את פניהם באופן גורף (כפי שקרה עם נענע10 למשל, שם חזו בירידה משמעותית בטראפיק), אבל כן נעלמו אופציות, כן זזו הגדרות, כן השתנתה הדרך בה אנשים צורכים את התכנים בעמוד הבית… לחשוב שזה יוביל לפחות שהייה באתר זו לא מסקנה הגיונית באמת, רק למראית עין. אם לדבר על עצמי לרגע, בעקבות השינוי אני גולש פחות באתר ויותר דרך האפליקציה באייפון שלי. הממשק אמנם חסר, אבל הניוז פיד נותר כפי שהיה לפני השינוי, ואני לא יודע אם אני אשדרג אותו כשתצא החלופה לשוק.

    מעבר לזה, שינוי הממשק הוביל אצלי לשינויים בדפוסי הגלישה באתר ולשינויים חברתיים לרעה, אמנה מספר:
    1- אני כבר לא יודע למי יש יום הולדת במבט אחד. אני אצטרך להסתכל על איזור האירועים שנמצא בראש הדף מימין ולזכור להקליק על “עוד”. אני אוהב לדעת למי מהאנשים שאני מכיר יש יומולדת. עכשיו אני מרגיש מנותק מזה, חבל.
    2- אני מסתכל על פחות תמונות של חברים וכתוצאה מזה אני מגיב פחות. רוב האלבומים נמצאים בצד הימני של האתר. לאט לאט אני מתעלם ממנו יותר ויותר כתוצאה מכך שהחומר המוגש שם הפך לספאם חברתי
    3- ספאם חברתי: בצד הימני אני מקבל חומרים שחברים שלי הגיבו או סימנו אותם בדרך כלשהי אך הם אינם מופרדים מהחומר של החברים שלי בשום צורה, לכן אני נאלץ להגיע אל החומר כדי לבדוק מהו ולבדוק אם הוא מעניין אותי. פעם ×–×” ×”×™×” אחרת: החומרים שהחברים שלי סימנו ×”×™×” מופיע לי בפיד, אבל ×”×™×” לי ברור של מי החומר והייתי רואה “תמונת אצבע” עם כיתוב מסביר. היום ×–×” לא ×›×›×” יותר. משום מה ×–×” מזכיר לי את ביקון.
    4- פוקים. אני לא מפציץ גדול בפוקים, אבל אני אוהב להשתמש בהם כדי להזמין אנשים אלי, כדי לפתוח את הפרופיל שלי לאנשים שהוא חסום אצלהם ובכלל כאמצעי להתחלה של תקשורת. לזה זה נועד. הפוק ירד לתחתית ההיילייטס, אני לא זוכר להשתמש בו, ואז כשאני נזכר אני מוצא שם רשימה שלא שמתי לב אליה.

  • This documentary is really well made and balanced, and I remember vividly how they are not shunning difficult questions. I saw it a couple of years ago on Israeli Channel 8. I can recommend it. Takes some time to watch. Better grab it from your favorite torrent site, as it requires some dedicated couch-potato-time. Might be a bit outdated as of now and the POV is western. Still, a couple of hours well spent.

  • That’s funny!! First the left-wing commenter and now the right-wing commenter both refuse to watch the clips. Hahaha.

    Would you guys click on the Play button already?!

  • What is the “current consensus?” There is no such thing. Deir Yassin has always been one of the most loaded elements of the debate about 1948 and has become a convenient tool of the pro-Palestinian side to hammer away at the 1948 War as if it is representative of the entire war. First hand footage of people who were there and people who then went on the airwaves to promote “the story” is what you get in this documentary and that helps to clear up any confusion about what you may read from either side about this event.

    Why don’t you spend 10 minutes watching the first two clips? I promise you will not be disappointed.

  • Yeah, sure, I really trust the BBS and PBS to report honestly about this… especially a set-piece of Pali propaganda like Deir Yassin…

    Yeah, sure….

  • looks like a good find, tm. being that i’m too lazy to watch just now, how do these films square up against the current consensus reality on Deir Yassin?